We Lack Discipline

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  1. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    It's a major problem...It was an issue last year with Rex and his team and this year its continuing in the same tune. All pre-season we averaged almost 10 penalties a game...

    Moving along the first two games of the year we have costly penalties holding us back from generating a rhythm.

    How does Rex get a hold of this situation? I know he is a players coach...But he needs to stop being one of the guys every time and reign everyone in.

    Control the situation, or we'll end up reacting like this guy by the end of the season...




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  2. Geno007

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    This is bullshit. I guess Seattle and Baltimore last 2 season lack discipline?
     
  3. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    For one, both those teams had a strong balance in offense/defense.
    How the hell are we supposed to make the part offense part when we keep taking stupid penalties?

    As for those two teams, we still need to make the playoffs. Those teams made up for the penalties with their talent. We aren't there yet.
     
  4. Geno007

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    So a team disciplined as long as they have the talent to make up for it? I always hear teams are not discipline if they draw a lot of flags? And that on HC. I'm sorry I wouldn't had said this 3 weeks ago but if this team had one good CB we would make the playoffs this season. It not the discipline that are problem it our CB's. No if and or butts about it.
     
  5. JetTerp

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    Agreed. The offense is a work in progress, and while we see that progressing, we need to play smart and disciplined. I blame the coaching for that, in particular Rex, who has many strengths as a motivator and leader, but seems to fall short on some of the more detailed coaching aspects.
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Teams that play average for 2 or more quarters of a game can't get away with stupid penalties.
     
  7. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    Fair to say...We are a average team.
     
  8. Bellows1

    Bellows1 Well-Known Member

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    Don't repeat idiotic arguments. What the penalties are, are far more important than how many are assessed.
    You can't equate a TD saving PI from one team to a 12 men on the field loss of an interception from another.
    Bad teams need to play cleaner football than good teams, they need to capitalize on frequent mistakes, not make them.
     
  9. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    We are young team, but we are also a stupid team as well.
     
  10. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    Since week 1 preseason this team has actually looked even less disciplined than years past.

     
  11. NCJetsfan

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    I agree that it's a major problem. The real problem is, however that zebras can't change their stripes. Rex is who he is. He isn't going to change. That's a major part of his philosophy or approach to being a coach. Secondly, even if Rex wanted to change and tried, one cannot start out as an undisciplined coach, teacher, or leader, then suddenly become disciplined. In those situations it never works. The players, students or whomever is on the receiving end of the change rebels and refuses to cooperate.

    If Woody and Idzik want this team to become disciplined, they're going to have to fire Rex.
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Rex is bulletproof as long as the team remains competitive and folks show up for the games. Things like discipline take a back seat to ticket sales and in the end, Woody calls shots. If Idzik didn't have the authority to fire Rex when he came in, he damn sure doesn't have the authority to do it now. Besides, they all like each other so learn to live with the endless time management gaffes, personnel mixups, the WildCat and a hands off approach to offense. This is what Rex does. After 6 years, do you really think Rex is gonna change anytime soon?

    People only change when its in their best interests to do so. Not before..
     
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  13. joeuser

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    Great thread!
     
  14. Falco21

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    Holy fuckin hell!! Did you really put "no if and or BUTTS about it? lmfao

    Let me fix this for you:

    So a team is disciplined as long as they have the talent to make up for it? I always hear teams are not disciplined if they draw a lot of flags, and that's on the HC? I'm sorry, I wouldn't have said this 3 weeks ago, but if this team had one good CB, we would make the playoffs this season. It's not the discipline that is our problem. It is our CB's. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
     
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    First of all, Ryan would not have achieved the consistent level of success has had over the years on the defensive side of the ball, be it as a DC or HC had he lacked sufficient discipline and the ability enforce the same upon his coaches and players. Whatever his shortcomings, being a terminally undisciplined coach is not one of them. Second of all, you stated that one cannot start out as an undisciplined coach and then then become one. You say it never works because the players rebel and refuse to cooperate. While there's no doubt that has been the case on countless occasions, it is by no means an absolute and there have been countless, indisputable examples of coaches who ran sloppy programs (and lost the ears and hearts of their players ) who then successfully turned things around during the very same season. If you just can't think of any, let me know and I'll cite some examples for you entirely free of charge.:D
     
  16. TNJet

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    You think ^^^^^ can instill discipline?

    Maybe he needs help disciplining the team from.........>[​IMG]
     
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    Lol I love how every single thing this guy says is sarcastic as hell
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Great post!
     
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    74 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks! I'm a Jets fan and I love my drug-free, happy-go-lucky life!
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    FFFFP!
     

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