Chris Johnson - We're not using him properly

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  1. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    title is correct, we are using him wrong. we are giving him carries tht should go to ivory and powell
     
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  2. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

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    This...CJ looks like the third best back on the team but he's still being treated as the top dog.
     
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  3. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    You mean like Jeremiah George?
     
  4. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    He was on our practice squad at a position we were deep at. There's a difference.
     
  5. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    "A position we're deep at" - please stop, we kept future hall of famers AJ Edds and Nick Bellore over him.
     
  6. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    So we don't have a crap ton of linebackers?
     
  7. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    It's all about building competition within. The best players will play.
     
  8. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    We have inside linebackers filling out our roster, but we certainly don't have quality depth at the position if that's what you're suggesting. We have one star, one average starter, and a handful of nobodies.
     
  9. Altoona

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    While Johnson isn't the player he once was I'm not entirely sure how much his current level of production, or lack thereof, is a function of his diminished abilities, the way he is being used or a combination of the two. While he clearly still has above average speed, he appears to have lost that instantaneous burst of low end acceleration he once had and seems to need an additional step or two to get going. I think a back like CJ needs a clear and open lane so he can get up to speed and take off which means he does need to get the ball with some measure of space, be it originating in the backfield, on a screen, option, draw play or lined up as a slot receiver. I remember watching him in his first preseason game this year and getting the distinct impression that he still had plenty of burst and speed. Maybe it's me, but the plays when his number has been called this year, our O-line has been less than impressive in opening holes for him and often are allowing penetration into our backfield and clogging lanes almost instantly. We don't seem to be doing much at blocking at the second level either. Again, it may just be me but it seems that there is a listlessness and predictability to the running plays called for Johnson. Ivory, on the other hand, somehow makes it seem like much of what I've been saying doesn't carry much weight at all. Ivory is certainly better at breaking tackles and fighting for extra yardage with his strength and toughness but Johnson, despite being tall and a little lanky for a featured back, was not always so easy and ready to go down upon initial contact.

    Something(s) isn't (aren't) quite right but I just haven't been able to figure out exactly what.
     
  10. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Care to admit you have no idea what you're talking about?

    LINK
     
  11. Greenday4537

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    To be a smartass, I was right and you were wrong. They didn't cut him until after FOUR games.
     
  12. JetLifeLo

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    Ivory only be having like 10 more yards than CJ every game lol! I know he isn't ripping long runs like were used to seeing in tennessee but he's also a pretty tough runner for a speed back. I see him fighting for the extra 3,4 yards after contact.. He gets hit hard as hell he but when he gets low he breaks tackles just like the long run he had yesterday. hopefully he found some confidence after that TD.
     
  13. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Chris Ivory had 40 more yards than Johnson against Oakland.

    He had 22 more yards against Green Bay.

    He had 40 more yards against Detroit.

    Chris Ivory has over 100 more yards than Johnson and has a much higher ypc.

    Are you watching the same games?
     
  14. JetLifeLo

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    Lol i just noticed the stats i was looking at was total yards.. was lookin at the yards thru my fantasy league app.
     
  15. Altoona

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    His TD run against Detroit when bounced outside from the hole that never materialized was a nice demonstration that Johnson still has well above average speed and good enough acceleration provided he gets a couple of steps of space to build steam.
     
  16. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    He was only active for THREE of them. They didn't even dress him on Sunday. LOL, he sucks ... apparently you do cut a 4th round developmental player if he's your punt returner and he can't catch punts.
     
  17. Hobbes3259

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    right. 10 yards per game.

    1.4 yards per carry more, on average. And Ivory punishes a defense.

    Johnson shouldn't be seeing the field except in obvious passing situations, and long down/distance, or the 4th qtr.
     
  18. JetLifeLo

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    lmaoo.. Yeah his YPC is garbage
     
  19. CouldtheJetsbeattheJags?

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    The problem with Chris Johnson in a football roll is it involves him playing football which he is not good at.
     
  20. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Please, the guy has more Pro-Bowls then the rest of our roster combined. He may not be as good as he was (or better than Ivory), but on our d-gsh-t offense, he's a standout.
     

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