Do you even know what the word "speculation" means? Because, your statement: . . . is a textbook example of speculation (you should probably look this word up a few more times). Meanwhile, my statement: "Having said all of that, what we know for certain is that none of the teams in need of a starting quarterback chose Mark as a potential solution. None. Zero. Nada. In point of fact, Mark was only ever offered a contract to be a backup." . . . is merely a statement of fact. In other words, it's a statement of reality (something I know you have a lot of trouble with when it comes to Mark Sanchez). Nice try.
We disagree. That aside; you don't think when a player gets released has any impact on the opportunities available to said player?
your statement is asinine as it was month into FA, teams had brought in their QBs and would only change that plan through the draft. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/1/22/5334752/mark-sanchez-jets-free-agent
I don't know why I bother w/ him, it's really not wroth my time to argue w/ someone that knows so little.
Yes . . . Quite naturally. However, Mark got released on March 21st, over one month before the NFL draft. Therefore, the notion that he was released too late to be considered by teams as a potential solution at quarterback is just silly. He's not a starter right now because his reputation (well-earned) around the league following his disastrous 2012 season is in the toilet. It isn't because he got screwed by the Jets. Plenty of good veteran players were acquired after March 21st. Chris Johnson, for example, was acquired by the Jets on April 16nth. Again, the idea that Mark would be starting right now if not for John Idzik is completely unfounded and simply has no basis in reality (I'm not implying you asserted this, but amazingly, several other posters actually have).
Another deflection that serves to address none of the salient points I made above. How does this resolve the fact that you apparently don't know what the word speculation is?
Then why isn't he a starter? Where were all of this offers to be a starter? He was released in March, not august. Plenty of good players were signed in the month of March, and even worse, plenty of good players after Mark Sanchez was. Again, the notion that Mark was released too late to be considered for starting position is simply a baseless, unfounded excuse to explain why your hero is riding the bench right now. No excuses, right junc?
Interesting. Who has played more snaps this year, Mark Sanchez or Chris Johnson? Don't worry, I'll wait. The Giants signed Dominique Rodgers Cromartie on March 17th. The Jets signed Eric Decker on March 12th. The Jets signed Chris Johnson on April 16nth. All of those guys are starters or play a significant number of snaps in every game. I could go on. But according to you, Mark being released on March 21st precluded him from being a starting quarterback this year? Really? So, in your world of twisted logic, it makes sense to you that there were teams out there who thought Mark could be their guy, but because they had to wait an extra week or two (at most), decided to go in a completely different direction?? Really??? How does that make any sense? By what logic are you arriving at your conclusion? Didn't every team around the league know he was going to be released sooner or later, anyway? Waiting until March 21st was a deal-breaker when it came to grabbing a potential franchise quarterback??? REALLY? March and April signings of key NFL starters happen all the time. Mark isn't starting right now because he isn't looked at as an NFL starter. No amount of delusional excuse-making for your hero will change that verity.
So it does impact a player's opportunities but not Mark's? CJ is such a bad example; apples to oranges. Opportunities to start or compete for a starting job at the QB position are far fewer than those for a rotational RB. Not to mention CJ is far more accomplished player than Sanchez, logically he would have more opportunities. All that said, CJ still didn't have that many offers and definitely none where he was guaranteed the primary RB role. Considering the sheer scarcity of opportunities, if Sanchez had a chance at or competing for a starting position, it would have been if he was released at the onset of FA. Guys like Manning, Rodgers and Brady can get cut at anytime, but a guy with Mark's referenced "earned reputation" does not have that luxury. We can argue the degree to which the Jets releasing him late hurt those chances but not the fact that it did. With regards to the draft, we seem to have a fundamental disagreement. I'm guessing you don't think teams decide a month before the draft to address certain positions in the draft rather than FA; I do. Lastly, you are od'ing on the bold my man.
More examples from history: The Jets cut Chad Pennington on August 8th (or thereabouts). August 8th. The dolphins had no issue swooping him right up. August wasn't too late for them, because they saw a potential solid starting quarterback for their football team was suddenly available. But, we are to believe that there were teams out there that thought Mark (who, again, is only 28, and could, in theory, still be a franchise quarterback for a team for the next 8-10 years) could be their guy, only to go in another direction because they couldn't be bothered to wait until March 21st???? Really???
what is your point? those guys were signed early in FA w/ the exception of Johnson and Johnson plays a position where guys rotate snaps. Use some common football sense please.
so now you are going to find random points in NFL history? each offseason is different, there were not many starting jobs available coming into the offseason and a month into FA teams had a good idea of what they had or if they would be drafting a QB. Mark had interest from a bunch of teams, it's better he went to Philly rather than going to somewhere like Oak to start. he's rehabbing his career w/ an offensive guru and the league has taken notice. check out all the positive stuff about him from this preseason.
The Dolphins' quarterbacks were rookie Chad Henne, John Beck and Josh McCown at the time. If those were their QBs the day Sanchez got cut, they probably would have signed Sanchez too.
I'm fascinated by the ferocity at which Sanchez hat.., let's say "critics", argue their position. It's almost personal…LOL
Totally agree, but they still exist. There were plenty of teams that still needed a quarterback when Mark was cut. It's not like we let him go in the middle of the preseason (which would STILL not entirely negate the possibility of him being picked up with serious possibility to play on the right team). Despite all of the speculation, there is no evidence that any NFL team was interested in Mark Sanchez as a starting quarterback. Well, there it is I wholeheartedly agree. This just isn't supported by NFL history. March 21st, is by no means, prohibitively late. The case of Chad Pennington, in and of itself, disproves this myth. If teams looked at him as a potential starter, he would have been given the chance to, at the very least, compete for a starting job. I just don't see how him getting released over a month before the NFL draft precluded him from, at the very least, being brought in to someone's camp to compete. No, I certainly do. But, I also think that if teams think a guy could be a potential starter for them, they don't let the fact that it is March 21st make them not even consider it. Again, there were a plethora of teams who were in need of a starting quarterback on March 21st. If one of them thought Mark could be their franchise quarterback of the future, he would have been signed over a month before the NFL draft. I don't see a logical way around this verity. Probably. But, it's my thing.
Bashing an obviously mediocre quarterback is personal, but junc defending Mark like he's his illegitimate son isn't? Interesting.
So, March 21st was fundamentally different in the past? Interesting. Agree, but my only point was that the notion that March 21st was prohibitively late for Sanchez to at least compete for a starting job (Maybe in Oakland? Maybe in Minnesota?) is just nonsense.
My point is that March 21st wasn't prohibitively late by any objective standard, unless you decide to include the Sanchez delusions in your head. Use some common reading comprehension and context clues, please.
