Basically, you're telling me fans relate more to the point of view of the billionaire owners than they do the players. If I'm the best at my job, I expect to be paid the most. Until you are willing to take less for the benefit of the team at your job, you can't gripe about players trying to get the most they can in their short lived careers. With regards to draft success, why can't we demand as much from GMs as we do the players? Call me crazy but I expect my GM to have "sustainable" success in the draft just like I expect my WRs to catch the ball, CBs to cover, QBs to beat the blitz…etc.
FTR, I was for keeping Revis, but I didn't think trading him would be some kind of catastrophic move either. All I hope for is that we did it for the right reasons (i.e., didn't think he or the position was worth that kind of money, not fit what we want to do going forward, he's too much of a cancer in the locker room…etc.). I hope to God that we didn't choose not to meet the demands of, IMO, the best CB in football because we were afraid that our GM would not be able to draft well enough going forward to make up for the cap space his contract would take up. If that's the case, we are really protecting the GM NOT the team.
Greatr point. The irony here is that Idzik's rep before came to the Jets was on the contract side, yet people defending the Revis trade were always talking about how keeping him would have been too much for the GM to deal with regarding the rest of the roster and the cap. That is as you say kind of a misplaced concern. Somehow NE is managing to have both signed Revis and lead their division. It can be done. What, it can be but not if your GM is John Idzik???
And the Pats model starts with letting players go or trading them (Mankins, Law,Moss, Seymore, etc) befor they get the big deal. It's a great model in my opinion IF the team has had a history of success AND one of the great QB's of all time. Put a QB not named Brady, Breeze, Rodgers, Manning, or Rivers in that system and it fails. The reason it fails is that you need to spend $ on the skilled positions that the QB can not make up for... So in essence, Revis is a huge luxury for them that they are able to afford because Tommy takes less for the team and he makes up for the lack of weapons on the offense so they don't need to overpay for guys like Welker....
Meh. I don't know their costs chapter and verse, but they have some people there who I assume make the going rate. The point is that Brady is making more than Smith, more than Sanchez was, they signed everyone else on the team, and were able to afford Revis. Do they have the same amount of cap space as the Jets do right now? No. But this is not a contest to see who can have the most cap space.
BB, you absolutely kill me....no it's not a cap space contest but cap space has to be there if an organization like the jets wants some weapons and upper end talent. We have proven time and time again we can not develop personnel on the offensive side if the ball, so we have to buy it or overpay when and if we ever develop. For the final time, I don't know what else to say to you. The jets made the right decision by not signing Revi$ last year and this year. We are not one player, especially a CB, away from even a wild card team. The lack of spending and poor drafting this FA's is another story. But again, not retaining revi$ At that price is the right move.
Not really, I don't think most fans relate to either, it's just a matter of who looks like they are whining more. The owners already have the money and are happy with the status quo, the players are the ones trying to get it, so it looks like the players are the ones who are unhappy with their million dollar contracts. Well, that's one perspective. I am not saying it's a wrong one, but it's not the only one either. Some great players do take less money to help the team out. Also it depends on the exact circumstances. If some journeyman player wants to maximize his small contract over the few years he is going to play, that's a lot more understandable in a fan's eyes than a superstar player who is going to get paid a ton of money in any case, and get another ton of money through advertisement. Depends on what you mean by sustainable success. I would love to see some kind of analysis of all NFL teams' draft record over the last 20 years or so, in terms of how many impact players, starters and busts they average per year. Too lazy to do it myself, but maybe we can talk Maximus into doing it. I would guess that average is way below Seattle in recent history, but probably better than ours. Overall though, we do demand as much from GMs. They are given a few years, and if during that time the team does not play well and/or improve (and drafting and free agency and trades are all a huge part of that), they get fired. Tanenbaum got fired in large part because he was unable to find talent through the draft, and if after a few years, Idzik has the same drafting record as Tanenbaum, he will get fired as well. And GMs get paid a lot less too.
I would love to know why your number one cb coming off an injury was on the field for a fg attempt. Why has no-one asked Rex that?
