This win does not help our future

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  1. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    One game does not make a stud. That's a large reach. Jarrett's been in the league long enough that you know what to basically expect from him in terms of career trajectory. Like I said, meaningless from a team standpoint.
     
  2. JetBlue

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    The 2010 playoff wins didn't help our future or lead to a Super Bowl victory, so they were a meaningless wins as well.

    We would have been better off missing the playoffs that year, and in 09, and not deluding ourselves Mark Sanchez could be our franchise QB so we could have begun rebuilding sooner.

    Idiot Jets fans motto: why try to win when you can rebuild.
     
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    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    Are you really this clueless? You do realize that when you make the playoffs that the season is considered a success. Your attempt to compare 2009 and 2010 to 2014 is baseless and holds no value. Only an Idiot fan who knows nothing about football would try to compare a 2-8 team to successful teams who made playoff runs.

    CluelessIdiotJets fans motto (aka JetBlue) : why lose and get a franchise QB when you can win a meaningless game at 1-8.
     
  4. SienaSaints

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    I never said it was likely. Rooting for them to lose every game is stupid. They are 2-8. They will end up with a most likely maximum of 4-6 wins still putting them in good draft position to trade up if need be to get MM and Winston probably falls anyway.
     
  5. nyjunc

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    winning always helps, wanting to lose is for losers. if you know what you are doing you can draft well no matter what position you are in.
     
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  6. JetsNation06

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    Trade up when the team has holes all over the roster? Probably not a good idea for a team that needs as much young, cheap talent as it could possibly attain.
     
  7. Jonathan_Vilma

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    If you root for the team to lose every week you really just shouldn't watch any games the rest of the season. What's the point in rooting for failure? I couldn't even be a fan anymore if I wanted them to lose out the game wouldn't interest me at all.
     
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  8. Lon Chaney

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    This thread would actually have some credence if there was a franchise quarterback in this year's draft.
     
  9. JetLifeLo

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    A game like that can boost confidence for players like graham and Jarrett moving forward...
     
  10. JetsNation06

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    Sure it can boost confidence, bust it most likely won't amount to much. Graham is on his 3rd team in 4 years and Jarrett's a career journeyman. You pretty much know what type of play to expect from these guys based on their careers. Moving forward past this awful season, they most likely won't be a part of the Jets future and they shouldn't be as they're marginal NFL players, at best.
     
  11. Jetsfansince95

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    Yet some people want Winston.... who by the way.... TMZ is reporting was shaving points for a friend to win a bet vs lou...
     
  12. Jetsfansince95

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    All these fans rooting for failure fits right in to this franchise.... so sad
     
  13. JetBlue

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    If your logic results in dumb fuck conclusions it is your argument that is dumb as fuck not me for pointing it out.

    The fact that you have to further narrow your argument with qualifications reveals has dumb fuck your argument is.

    And making the playoffs equating to success is subjective. Was the Broncos season a success last year simply because they made the playoffs? That is your argument. Of course you will add another qualification to try to justify that stupidity without any clue that the more you have to narrow your argument the more illogical your argument is.

    If applying your argument broadly makes a dumb fuck argument than your argument is dumb as fuck.
     
  14. BrowningNagle

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    Yesterday's win didn't hurt or help their future. It was irrelevant because that's the situation they've put themselves in this year. It was enjoyable for the fans though so just enjoy it for a week and stop bitching about the draft.

    They should be playing/evaluating the younger players more though. Guys like Powell, Pryor, Coples, and one of the young QBs etc. Win or lose with them it doesn't matter. However Rex did allude to a "new" mantra of playing the guys that show they deserve to play during the week.. aka Jarrett. Not sure why this is something coming to fruition now Instead of how it should've been all season, but if that's the message he wants to send to the young players and the reason some of them are sitting in pure evaluation mode than I am okay with it.
     
  15. Big Blocker

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    People arguing as the OP does I think have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the sport is all about.

    Yes, all of us as fans hope that the Jets win the Super Bowl. That's what we want. But it's not the only think we want. Before proceeding with that point, let's make clear that having a somewhat higher draft pick than otherwise is not magic bullet that will bring a Super Bowl. It's not even clear it makes it materially more likely, given not only this team's past drafting history, but the frequent occasions when high picks do not pan out for lots of other teams.

    Meanwhile as fans we follow the team game by game. Those who go to the games attend them one game at a time. The experience of following the team proceeds on a game by game basis. And a win is what we want from each game, or we are not really fans.

    I enjoyed yesterday's game more than I have all other things that have occurred this season, in total. I got to see vindication that, as I have felt for quite some time now, Smith would, and has, held this team back from what it is otherwise capable of. That the Vick signing was a good one, but would have been even better if the Jets had not squandered the season in a wasted effort to give Smith more than enough rope to hang himself with.

    And now I hope they win some more games, as many as they can. We'll see about the draft and what can be one in it in the spring.
     
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    Yep, this is another reason you don't tank the season. Let the players play and show who deserves more playing time, who should be brought back next year, who should be let go. How do you put that process aside for a strategy of trying to get a marginally better draft pick?

    The answer is you don't.
     
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  18. JetsNation06

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    It's ok. I can tell you're just upset that I called you out on your "dumb fuck" bs conclusion where you tried to relate successful seasons in 2009 and 2010 to a miserable 2-8 season in 2014. LOL Oh by the way, the Jets aren't the Broncos so your dumb fuck comparison is really dumb as fuck there. The Broncos are a model NFL franchise. Then Jets are a shell of an NFL franchise. No comparison.
     
  19. Br4d

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    The Broncos aren't a model NFL franchise. They got lucky and Peyton Manning's neck held together after surgery at the age of 36. That makes the Broncos a very lucky NFL franchise.

    Quick: how many years in a row did the Broncos miss the playoffs before making it at 8-8 in 2011?

    Between 2001 and 2010 how many times did the Broncos make the playoffs and how many times did the Jets make the playoffs?

    Who are Willie Middlebrooks, Ashley Lelie, George Foster, D.J. Williams, Jay Cutler, Jarvis Moss, Ryan Clady, Knowshown Moreno DeMaryius Thomas and Tim Tebow?

    How many years did the average 1st rounder of the Broncos from 2001 to 2010 last with the team? 10 1st round picks lasted 47 seasons with the Broncos. Clady and Thomas are still going. 7 of 10 did not last past their rookie deal with the Broncos.

    How many are still on the Broncos? Jets still have D'Brick, Mangold, Harris, Wilson from that period. Broncos only have Clady and Thomas.

    They did make their own luck with the Peyton Manning signing but it was just that: luck.
     
  20. Poeman

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    If you Suck, you better get the Duck.
     

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