Would love to hear how a man who has been a coordinator for a grand total of 2 seasons and some change, who never broke the top 5 in any statistic as a DC, is qualified to run a team that hasn't won a superbowl in 45 years. Anecdotes from Bill Parcells and Richard Sherman are nice, but what in his resume/training/experience has earned him this job? He may be respected, fair, stern, a tough players coach; but none of that shit matters. Pete Carroll has a ring, Tom Coughlin has rings, Bill Belichick has rings, Tony Dungy has a ring. Four totally different personalities. Having the 7th ranked adjusted defense for one season when you still have multiple pro bowl players IMO is not a qualification for HC.
And it's mostly jerking the guy off without any actual list of qualifications. His resume is incredibly weak. The weakest of any HC in our division at the time of their hiring.
Not being Rex Ryan was one of my favorite Todd Bowles qualifications. Seriously, how about you give the man a chance, before you complain!?
This is exactly the point. B/C somehow people assume he's a good coach b/c he's "not Rex" and "doesn't talk shit". Mangini wasn't Rex, didn't talk shit, and actually won a ring as a coordinator. Want him back too? None of these anecdotes are qualifications for being the HC of an NFL team that hasn't won since 1969. If I'm missing something about him as an experienced leader of men, or experienced x's and o's guy with a lengthy track record, please clue me in. 2 years as a solid but not spectacular DC IMO doesn't make someone HC material at a team that desperately needs experience.
Cracked the top 5 to me indicates better than 5. And he did this one season. ONE. Having the 5th ranked scoring defense one season out of the 2 you have been a coordinator DOESNT QUALIFY YOU TO BE AN NFL HC.
Who was a better option to you then? Dan Quinn? His resume might be even less impressive than Bowles, especially working under Carroll. Jack Del Rio? Proven losing coach in Jacksonville. Tom Cable? Also, you think Rex's resume is better than Bowles? If I looked and saw a guy who led a Top defense the last couple years with a record of (21-11) on a team with a weak offense, vs. a guy who has gone (26-38) the last 4 seasons and completely tanked a franchise, I would have to take Bowles. Easily.
Why don't you shower us with your wisdom of what does qualify someone to be an NFL HC and where Bowles is lacking? They were 7th in points allowed his first season, btw. Hint: Typing in all caps doesn't help your cause.
This argument is so fuckin stupid. How is a coach ever supposed to achieve greatness? Great head coaches are not on the market. Why? Because great head coaches don't lose their jobs. They are great at what they do. Look at history. How many Coordinators turned into excellent head coaches? God. This thread needs to be closed. Please
LOL @ Rex tanked a franchise. The franchise is always what you see here. Hire an unproven, inexperienced defensive coordinator as a first time HC, watch the team fail, rinse repeat. I didn't want ANY young inexperienced coordinators. It's the same shit we have been doing since 1999.
I read somewhere he was voted DC or Assistant Coach of the year. Tremendous job with an inordinate amount of injuries. I'm also reading Atlanta had him as their first choice. Could any of the people in the business be right? I think you try way too hard to discredit great people willing to make a difference without giving them a chance.
How about more than 2 total seasons as a slightly above average DC? How about previous experience running a team at ANY LEVEL? How about enough years of measurable success as an X's and O's guy crossing different teams? How about championship pedigree? How about previous NFL HC experience? The only coordinators turned HC who have won a SB walked into teams that already were playoff teams and/or who had pro bowl QBs. Every other coach who won since 2001 had prior HC experience. Belichick, Gruden, Cowher, Dungy, Coughlin, Carroll. Tomlin is a mediocre coach who walked into a team built for him, had Arians and Lebeau calling plays, and a pro bowl QB. Peyton had Drew fucking Brees. McCarthy, who is like 1-9 in his career without Rodgers, has the best QB on earth.
Inordinate amount of injuries? He lost what one pro bowl level guy and still had three others and did no better than 5th in scoring D and had an atrocious total D.
I'm gonna assume the people whose jobs it is to know why Todd Bowles is a qualified coach know more than you and I. That's why I think Bowles is qualified. You don't just get hired to be a head football coach. You don't just get praise from Ron Wolf, Bill Parcell, Andy Reid, Sherman. This has been toted by the best hire from media outlets everywhere, the New York Jets have finally made a good decision. Everyone seems to think so but you.. There's literally nothing you can do about it and it's just starting so try and enjoy it bud.
First of all, being the coordinator of a top offense or defense doesn't ensure success as a head coach. Some of the league's best coordinators and assistant coaches have failed as head coaches. It's not simple enough to equate one's potential as a head coach with their defensive/offensive rankings as a coordinator. Dick LeBeau, Gary Kubiak, Rod Marinelli, Wade Phillips are just a few of many, many examples of great coordinators who didn't make it as head coaches. Here's another fine example: Mike Tomlin was an NFL coordinator for ONE season and amassed the 8th ranked defense on a 6-10 team before moving on to become one of the better head coaches coaches in the league going into his 9th season You're not going to find a simplistic formula for determining who is a great head-coaching candidate and who is not based on stats. - extremely simplistic and flawed way to look at things. There are many other qualities beyond numbers that go into it that are very difficult or impossible to know as fans. Bottom line: Nobody knows if Bowles is going to be a good head coach or not. We see some signs that he might be (high praise from many other coaches & players, ability to scheme well and get a lot out of what he has [because check the Cards defense in 14' and the major injuries they suffered - obviously not the fault of Bowles], and ability to lead), but it doesn't mean he will. We can just be hopeful at this point, not expecting
