Day 2 Minicamp Updates

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  1. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    cool thanks.
     
  2. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    What position is carpenter
     
  3. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    Locked in at LG. Should be a breeze for Geno that left side with Brick, Carp & Mangold creating a wall.
     
  4. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    More from NJ.com:

    1. Geno Smith bounced back.
    Smith, the quarterback in the pole position for the starter's job, had a three-pick day on Tuesday, when he particularly struggled during a red-zone drill. But Smith was sharp in a 7-on-7 on Wednesday, and he didn't turn the ball over at all. Best advice: Don't read too much into his performance fluctuations at this time of year. There's a new offense to learn, and a tremendous defense to face. This was just another day at the office in preparation for what's to come at training camp.

    2. Ryan Fitzpatrick had a bit of a rough day. Fitzpatrick, who's battling Smith for the top quarterback spot, made some poor throws and also split some backup reps on the first field with rookie Bryce Petty. But, again, June.

    3. Guards. Brent Qvale, who spent his rookie season on the practice squad, got reps with the first-team at right guard along with Brian Winters, who is recovering from an ACL tear. Winters also got some second-team snaps, while Oday Aboushi got work at second-team on the left side. Incumbent Willie Colon, who is working through a knee injury, did not partake in team drills again.

    4. Pryor gets pushy. Safety Calvin Pryor, on two occasions, nudged receivers after the caught passes. The first time, Pryor did it to tight end Zach Sudfeld, who was slow to get up afterward and limped to the locker room with a trainer. (Head coach Todd Bowles later provided no update on Sudfeld's injury status.) A few minutes later, Pryor did it again, knocking down tight end Jeff Cumberland. Contact, of course, is a no-no at this time of year. Bowles didn't single out Pryor specifically; he said there were "three or four incidents that happened on the field, and we can't have that. We'll address that."

    5. Revis gets beat deep. Wideout Walter Powell caught a long touchdown of approximately 70 yards against all-world corner Darrelle Revis. Revis was with Powell, but he had misplayed the ball by breaking back too far for it, allowing Powell to get it. And, in fairness to Revis, all corners get beat sometimes, and there's no press coverage permitted at minicamp. But Revis is still Revis: Eric Decker tried using a double-move on him at one point. Revis wound up staying with him the whole way.

    6. Brandon Marshall is good. There are certain things that are noticeable in June, and one of them is this: Marshall is the sort of big-bodied, aggressive receiver the Jets have lacked for a long time. He made a fantastic catch over cornerback Darrin Walls at one point by leaping, extending his arms, and attacking the ball so he could catch it over Walls. It was really something.

    7. Injuries during practice. There was Sudfeld limping off, and Walls did, too, at one point. After practice, Bowles provided no updates on the nature of their injuries, or their status. Marshall also appeared to have a foot injury toward the end of practice that Bowles described as a "stubbed toe."

    8. Injured players at practice. Tight end Jace Amaro (back) was in the rehab area throughout practice. Cornerback Dee Milliner (Achilles), safety Marcus Gilchrist (shoulder), running back Stevan Ridley (knee), and Colon (knee) were all limited.

    9. No Devin Smith again. Smith, a wideout drafted last month in the second round, was absent again, but he has an excuse: He's about to become a father. No update on that, either.

    10. What's to come? After Thursday, it's vacation time. Bowles explained what that means for the Jets' players. "They know they've got conditioning tests when they come back," Bowles said. "So it would be wise of them to come back in shape. We're not holding spots for anybody. Come back out of shape, next guy up."

    Thursday's final minicamp practice is scheduled for 10:25 a.m.
     
  5. pdxdrew

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    Damn Crow, that is some heavy shit you're slingin'..... ouch!
     
  6. Acad23

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    I continue to be impressed with our new head coach.

    Him and Cro weren't even here last year. They were busy going 11-5 with the Cards.
    He's owning it.

    Hiring Todd Bowles may be the smartest thing Woody has ever done.
     
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  7. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    This is why I like him as a HC so much, why I think he's a perfect fit here in NY. He doesn't get caught up in the hype, he doesn't let people get too cocky and talk trash. Work hard, play well and shut up. I mean do you see anybody like Rex having success in the NFL? No, all the good headcoaches share the same quality. They are under the radar, they don't want players talk trash, be cocky and all that. Belichick after all those SB wins* runs the tightest ship in the NFL. One of his players got his flight cancelled to an optional workout session and he arrived a day late, Bill just benched him for 3 weeks. What did Rex do when Pryor, Geno etc. missed important meetings and film sessions during the regular season (!)? Nothing. The one team that probably earned the right to talk shit doesn't do it. Same with the Harbaugh's. Rex, who hasn't done shit in the NFL, however embraces how much trash his players talk, he acts like a clown week in week out and gets his ass handed to him on gameday. Anyway, Woody and whoever helped him make that decision (Macc probably) deserve a bunch of credit for hiring Bowles. It has been a perfect offseason for us, front office, draft and free agency wise.
     
  8. Charlie Kelly

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    ^ Pete Carroll is one of the biggest players coaches in the NFL with some of the biggest trash talkers in the league on his team and he's had a bit of success
     
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  9. DaBallhawk

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    I see what you're saying but it's apples and oranges. If you are on the best team and you happen to be one of the best players in the league you can say whatever you want. Belichick doesn't keep Brady from talking, he doesn't set him straight. He never did it with Harrison or Wilfork or Gronk either. But when you're on a losing team and you're not exactly one of the best NFL players you really have no right to open your mouth. And that's where Cro is. That's where Rex is. Do what Carroll has done, do what Sherman has done, then you can talk. Until then shut up and work. Plus Carroll never talks shit about coaches or teams.

    There's a fine line between being confident/having swagger (Carroll) and just being a bigmouth who can't back anything he says up (Rex). There's a fine line between being the best and pretending to be the best. Rex is a pretender.
     
  10. Charlie Kelly

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    I'm not a fan of the way Rex acts or handles public relations with the team, I think it's completely unprofessional and childish and an embarrassment, and I can't wait to see Bills fans saying the same thing in 3-5 years. But what you said was "No, all the good headcoaches share the same quality. They are under the radar, they don't want players talk trash, be cocky and all that."

    I don't agree with that, some coaches take a hands off approach to how players talk to the media and they get away with it because the team has success on the field, and not every good coach is under the radar, not even close
     
  11. Footballgod214

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    Rex was a big mouth but we all loved it. When he said he's not coming here to kiss Belichecks rings. When he said he's stepped over tougher guys then Choweder on the way to a fight. You take a swing at one of ours we'll take a swing at two of yours. Yah it got old when Sanchez/Idzik/Geno and losing happened, but it was a lot of fun at first. Especially for us from the Mangini era.
     
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    NY Post

    How Todd Bowles is rejecting Rex Ryan’s ways and making Jets his own

    By Steve Serby

    June 10, 2015 | 9:58pm

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    If Rex Ryan was a blustery hurricane of fresh air blowing into the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center, Todd Bowles is a calm, cool breeze. If Ryan’s bark was worse than his bite, it is becoming more and more obvious that Bowles’ bite is worse than his bark.

    There is, indeed, a new sheriff in town.

    He is the Toddfather, and he will make you an offer you can’t refuse.

    To wit:

    Twitter wars are about to end. Asked about the recent exchange between Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie and Seahawks corner Richard Sherman, which extended Wednesday to include former Jets tight end Kellen Winslow Jr.:

    “Me and Cro talked about it,” Bowles said. “I don’t know what happened today about the Kellen Winslow thing, I’m not on Twitter, Facebook or any of those things. … We’re just trying to focus on the team. Like I said, we didn’t win last year, and there’s really nothing to talk about other than us getting better. All the other outside stuff, you don’t worry about.”

    It sounds like the Winslow-Cromartie war of words will prompt a reminder from Bowles.

    “We’ll address that, and we’ve covered that pretty much,” the new Jets coach told The Post. “We’ll be fine with that by the end of the week.”

    To wit:

    Calvin Pryor getting physical at practice: “It was one play, but there were a couple of guys who got a little carried away, about three or four incidents that happened on the field that we can’t have happen. And we’ll address that.”

    To wit:

    On guidelines for players between the end of minicamp and the start of training camp: “They know they got conditioning tests when they come back, so it will be wise of them to come back in shape — we’re not holding spots for anybody. You come back out of shape, next guy up.”

    It has been impressive watching how Bowles is so comfortable in his own skin. Not that Ryan was not. In fact, Animal House worked just fine in 2009 and 2010, and even in 2013, when Ryan’s Jets overachieved and then-general manager John Idzik could not fire him. Different ways to skin a cat and all that. But Bowles represents the official death of Animal House.

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    “You take a lot of bumps and bruises along the way,” Bowles told The Post. “I’ve been on the front page good and bad. As a coach, you learn little things. … I can’t be [Bill] Parcells, I can’t be [Cardinals coach Bruce] Arians, I can’t be anybody else but who I am. The biggest thing I have to do is learn what football knowledge I can from everybody that was around me, and try to put it into my own words, and my own term, and be who I am, ’cause if you’re not, from being an ex-player, players see right through that. So you’re gonna have to be who you are.”

    He can’t be Rex Ryan.

    “You don’t worry about who was before you, who’s coming after you,” Bowles said. “It was similar in Arizona when I replaced [defensive coordinator] Ray Horton. Ray had a good defense. Whether you replace somebody good or bad, you’re gonna be judged and compared to them. It’s not my job to judge and compare myself to them, but just to do the best job I can do, and stay inside my realm, which is football. I don’t worry about the outer comparisons and things like that. You’re not gonna get my personality in a couple of interviews. You’re not gonna get how I coach until time goes on, so it’s a process and you understand it’s a process, and I’m comfortable with that, and not being swayed by anybody.”

    Ryan made coming to work fun. So does Bowles … but it won’t be a funhouse. Bowles is no-nonsense. He is not here to kiss Bill Belichick’s rings either, he just won’t announce it. For Bowles, it is entirely about professionalism and discipline on and off the field. Bowles was asked what impression he hopes he has left on his players.

    “Hopefully accountability, and just understanding what their job is, and how they go about doing it and how they carry themselves,” Bowles said. “Communication as far as taking care of each other, and understanding every day they go home and leave this building, something can happen, just to be more aware of their surroundings, and learn from other people’s mistakes. They don’t have to make them themselves. So hopefully, we’re getting that across. It’s gonna take some time, but that’s what we’re trying to get across.”

    He wants a team with swag.

    “Yes I do,” Bowles told The Post. “There are different ways of going about it. Swag is hard work, putting in extra work and extra effort, understanding what your team can do as opposed to worry about any other team or anybody else.”

    This is what he said about Antonio Allen: “He’s a very brash guy, which is a good thing in football. You need some swagger, so we’ll see if that carries over in the summer.”

    Sheldon Richardson loved Ryan, and appreciates him to this day. What does he expect the on-field personality of a Todd Bowles team to be?

    “Dominant … both sides of the ball this time. That’s about it … ’cause you know Rex was only concerned about the defense, which, he told you that first,” Richardson said.

    It contributed to Ryan’s downfall, along with shoddy quarterback play and a horrific 2013 draft. Bowles will be the coach of the entire team.

    “They’re similar in a lot of ways, and different in a couple of ways,” Calvin Pace said. “Todd just happens to be a little bit more reserved and laid back than Rex.”

    Willie Colon: “He’s real. He’s extremely real. I think he’s just right to the point, black and white. You’re making it happen or you’re not. I think he’s all about accountability, and in being professionals.”

    Geno Smith: “I love the way he goes about his business. I love the way that he treats us as men, holds us accountable. That’s something that we really appreciate. I think since the first day he’s come in, he’s been himself. He hasn’t tried to please anyone, he hasn’t tried to do anything out of the ordinary. He’s all about winning, he’s a coach who truly believes in us, and we buy into that.”

    Just don’t miss a team meeting the night before a game.

    Bowles has a self-deprecating sense of humor, smiling as he calls himself an old man. When someone asked if it was true that he didn’t bust it out of the box beating out a hit in the Boomer & Carton True Blue Celebrity benefit softball game last week, he let a bit of his funny side show.

    “I beat out the hit. And I probably was the second fastest on the team, next to [Eric] Decker,” he said with a laugh. “That just puts me in the Mickey Rivers category. Joe [Torre] wanted to sign me, but I told him I had work to do back here, so I kind of gave that career up a little while ago.”
     
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  13. Charlie Kelly

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    We'll see how happy Sheldon Richardson is when he plays against Rex Ryan. Rex's team plays like Bills, and they are gonna take on all challengers. He's not gonna make any guarantees, but hey, with that defense and those skill players, hey, he doesn't think anybody is gonna want to play the Buffalo Bills, because the Bills will give them everything they got
     
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    Well, it was fun at first because he backed it up, that's what the Seahawks are doing, that's what the Ravens did. That's the fun part, when you're kicking ass and you point out how much ass you're gonna kick. Nothing wrong with that. But if you get your ass handed to you on sunday you have no right to open your mouth. That's where we are right now. Cro needs to shut it. Pryor needs to shut it. Get something done and then you can talk.
     
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    I remember last off season some here thought Walls was starter level quality. Heh.
     
  16. BrowningNagle

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    Bowles seems like a very real dude
     
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    Ya for some reason I thought he played RG so I was confused by everything saying winters and other dude rotating at RG
     
  20. jerseyjay14

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    there is no right or wrong way to approach coaching or players or how they interact with the public.

    when you win, its always the right way. when you lose its always the wrong way. carroll was laughed out of town at more then 1 stop for the same approach is his praised for now. players coaches are said to "keep teams loose" and "liberate players" when they win and looked at as "not being able to control their players" when they lose. loud mouths come off as "confident and inspiring to their players and get them to play hard for them" when they win and then "cocky blowhards who need to back it up on the field" when they lose.

    bottom line, it comes down to talent, execution, and what QB you have under center.
     

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