HOF'er Howie Long would disagree with you. As well as other Hall of Famers: Joe DeLamielleure: "Joe was as good as anybody I played against. He was in the same league with the Steelers' Joe Greene. And he was in a league of his own as far as strength," DeLamielleure recalled with a hearty laugh. "The thing with him was he was an every-down player, and he played every down like it was his last down. There were only a few guys in the league like that." Dwight Stephenson called Klecko and Raiders DE Howie Long the two toughest NFL defenders he lined up against. Anthony Muñoz: "I'll write a letter of recommendation to say Joe Klecko belongs in the Hall." .............................................. ........... .......... ....................
If U need a box score then I guess U never saw him play. Another suggestion try googling I found these on my 1st shot https://search.yahoo.com/search;_yl...nalties&fr2=sb-top-search&fr=yfp-t-901-s&fp=1
If you can't remember what your post said to me (box scores) then I guess U have Alzheimer's. And none of those links provide his offsides penalty numbers, maybe you should have bothered to look at your search results before you posted the link
U don't get it I never volunteered to find them if U do not believe U find them. If U want them work for it or just move along cause the facts are the facts & are unchanageable Another suggestion would be google the NYDN or Post for there recap of the games JK played in
And you don't get it, if you want to use it as a valid argument point then you need to prove it, otherwise you don't have an argument because what you say are facts aren't proven so they are just conjecture I suggest that you stick to arguments that you are capable of proving instead of stating they are facts when you are sadly incapable of supporting them with anything other than your questionable memory
Instead of blabbering away instead of searching U would have found this http://www.nytimes.com/1987/12/29/s...-klecko-walton-silent-on-jet-changes.html:mad:
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Is there something about Klecko's penalty numbers in Gail Collins article about The Battle of the Abortion Decisions?
The Jets could use a Joe Klecko now. He was the leader of that defense. All his teammates highly respected him... ...or they were scared shitless of him.
Klecko-Stephenson Key Duel - NYTimes.com www.nytimes.com/.../sports/klecko-stephenson-key-duel.html Sep 20, 1986 · Klecko-Stephenson Key Duel ... Joe Klecko knows there will be isolated ... Klecko was called for four penalties against the Bills in the season . LESSONS APLENTY FOR JETS, GIANTS - NYTimes.com www.nytimes.com/1982/09/14/sports/lessons-aplenty-for... Sep 13, 1982 · ... Joe Klecko, who has a history of ... may finally have learned where to line up so that he doesn't draw three penalties for being on the wrong side of ... Klecko-Stephenson Key Duel By GERALD ESKENAZI Published: September 21, 1986 FACEBOOK TWITTER GOOGLE+ EMAIL SHARE PRINT REPRINTS Joe Klecko knows there will be isolated replays, finely focused binoculars, fans leaning forward - everyone trying to see what may be the best matchup in pro football: Klecko vs. Stephenson, the heart of the Jets-Dolphins game today. In Klecko, the Jets have perhaps the most damaging nose guard in the National Football League. In Dwight Stephenson, the Dolphins boast the anchor of the offensive line that for three straight years has preserved Dan Marino and allowed him to escape as the least-sacked quarterback. ''Sure, people will think more about us because of our reputations,'' says Klecko. ''The respect we have for each other more or less creates a situation between us. The atmosphere is there.'' What heightens the tension for Giants Stadium fans is that the Jets' defense will feature a secondary that, because of injuries to starters, has never played together and has practiced for only one full day as a unit. In addition, the fans may be watching a defused Jet offense. Freeman McNeil, who had a pair of 100-yard games against the Dolphins last season, is injured again. That means the defense will be pressured to keep the scoreboard from flickering when the Dolphins have the ball. Success Last Season A supercharged Klecko led the Jets as they stormed over the offensive line and into Marino's face when the clubs met the first time last year. Marino was pressured into his poorest game as a pro in the Jets' victory. Marino failed to pass for a touchdown while being sacked once and intercepted once, and he gained only 136 yards on 13 completions in 23 attempts. Twenty Miami rushes gained only 74 yards. Stephenson, the agile 255-pound center, was manhandled by Klecko, who pounces off his stance despite weighing 260 pounds. In the clubs' next confrontation, though, Marino produced the winning touchdown in the final seconds by combining with Mark Duper on a 50-yard score. Still, Marino was intercepted three times, equaling his career high. And the Dolphins' running game was unable to average even 3 yards a carry, with 53 yards on 19 rushes. The pass-rush pressure that the Jets will apply today will probably come from a four-man line, which they have gone to increasingly this season. The Jets aren't worried about the Dolphins' running game. ''I don't think they're concerned with setting up their passing attack with the run,'' explains Barry Bennett. ''Their pass isn't dependent on establishing a running game.'' #4-Man Line Has Lyons Bennett starts as the left end, with Mark Gastineau on the right side, in a 3-4 alignment. When the Jets go to a four-man line, Bennett moves inside to left tackle, with Marty Lyons coming in at left end. Lyons would not hint at what his line would attempt today, but he recalled that last season ''we did a few different things - changed up our fronts and secondary coverage. But mainly, we got off the ball.'' Lyons said that Marino is ''not used to having people in his face, and that makes a quarterback throw where he's not supposed to.'' In an ideal Jets defensive world, if they get to Marino today - not necessarily to sack him, just pressure him - then his timing could go haywire. ''He's got a good, quick release, and a lot of his passes are timing passes,'' says Lyons. ''He releases them before the receivers even make the break.'' Normally, he gets the time because Stephenson is able to keep the middle clogged. ''He's very quick and he uses his hands very well,'' Klecko said of Stephenson. ''If he makes a mistake, he can make up for it.'' Must Move Quickly Klecko, as usual, will attack. But he is more aware this week that he must attack very quickly. ''I can't sit,'' he said. ''If you allow Stephenson to get set, he's too good.'' The Dolphins, meanwhile, will be hollering for officials to watch if Klecko is offsides, a now-familiar routine likely to be led by Coach Don Shula. Since Shula is an expert on the rules, as well as one of the leading sideline screamers at officials, he is expected to demand they watch Klecko for an offsides. Klecko was called for four penalties against the Bills in the season opener, and his offsides against the Patriots negated a key sack, although Klecko contends that exonerate him. ''They always complain,'' Klecko said. ''They scream and yell from the sidelines all the time at me now.'' Marino's former college center also will be around today, but watching. Jim Sweeney, now the Jets' left tackle, hiked the ball to Marino at Pitt. ''Dan's like all quarterbacks,'' recalls Sweeney. ''He didn't like to get hit. But he didn't have too many sacks back then, either.'' BENNETT SAYS HE'LL PLAY Woody Bennett, the fullback who left the Dolphins in a contract dispute for six hours Friday, practiced with the team at Giants Stadium Saturday and said he would play against the Jets. Bennett, an ex-Jet, has a specialized role with the Dolphins - essentially to block for the halfback, Lorenzo Hampton. Coach Don Shula said he was not certain whether Bennett or Ron Davenport would start Sunday. Bennett's agent, Irving Marks, met after practice with the Dolphins' executive vice president-general manager, Mike Robbie, in an effort to get a new contract for the back, who is in the option year of his deal. That calls for $180,000 this season, but he is asking for $240,000, about $15,000 more than Miami has offered. The player cautioned that if he still did not have a new contract by Monday, he would go back home. DECISIONS DUE ON 2 Coach Joe Walton of the Jets will make game-time decisions on two starters - Wesley Walker, the receiver, and Johnny Lynn, strong safety. Walker is bothered by a groin pull and Lynn has a hyperextended knee. Walker would be replaced by Kurt Sohn. The recently reacquired Carl Howard would step in for Lynn.
Yes then I posted another one where he had 4 in 1 game. When U mature you will finally understand the saying there is no such thing as a good penalty no matter if it 1 or 10 & U have no way of knowing if the penalties he had in the game U mentioned caused us to lose those games
So, you still haven't produced ONE FACT that says the penalties were harmful, beyond the 5 yards and reply the down. No notes of a Klecko offsides leading to a TD or FG or anything really. But, there is mention of how potent Joe Klecko was: In Klecko, the Jets have perhaps the most damaging nose guard in the National Football League... A supercharged Klecko led the Jets as they stormed over the offensive line and into Marino's face when the clubs met the first time last year. Marino was pressured into his poorest game as a pro in the Jets' victory. Marino failed to pass for a touchdown while being sacked once and intercepted once, and he gained only 136 yards on 13 completions in 23 attempts. Twenty Miami rushes gained only 74 yards.
No, I was talking about the second link you posted. The first link didn't work because you don't understand how to navigate the internet 1 article about two games with a total of 5 penalties, that is all you have provided to support your "facts"
You have to go old school for the best players. Offensive = Don Maynard Defensive = Mark Gastineau (Just wish he would have stayed in football for a couple more years and could be a HOFer. If only he had never met Brigitte Nielsen.)
You and I both agree on Revis being the best defensive player ever. But I think you're really strict on Klecko's penalties. What about all of the penalties that he caused the opponents to commit? He drew a lot of holding calls.
He doesn't think Revis is the best defensive player, the only players he would choose from offense and defense are from the 1968 team because they won a Super Bowl You could ask him which Jets had the all time best haircut and he would say that since all Jets post 69 were LOSERS then the player with the best haircut is OBVIOUSLY from the 1968 team.
