Personally I hope Geno doesn't start a game all year for the Jets. Its not that I hate Geno, but if he never plays that means Fitzpatrick stayed healthy and was good enough to keep the job. If Geno is truly 100% by week 1 I would give Fitzpatrick 2 weeks to prove that he should keep the job. If he shits the bed both weeks and the Jets start 0-2 its time to let Geno have a shot.
There are tons of 25, 26 years old in this league that have displayed more maturity than Geno. If you want someone who won't grow up leading your franchise by all means we have found the guy for you. Yes I'm saying if Mo threw the punch there's a better chance Geno is cut than Mo is. By their third year in the league, after being handed the starting job one would think they would stop doing immature stupid shit as you alluded to especially after being giftwrapped the job. Geno hasn't learned a damn thing.
Why does my age matter? I'm 23 years old and never been punched in the face over $20, been late to important meetings you're not allowed to be late to or flipped off a bunch of strangers that disapproved of my work. Granted, Geno's under a lot more pressure and scrutiny than I am day to day but you act like his mistakes are just excusable because of his age. The percentage of NFL players that make stupid decisions is extremely small in the grand scheme of how many players their are and the percentage of quarterbacks in these situations is miniscule if not almost non-existent. Why non-existent? Because they're mostly benched after being late, or cut after fighting with teammates. We're the only innate franchise that keeps morons like this around because we have no better option at the moment. Geno should've went and hung out with Manziel this offseason. He learned he needed to grow up and his teammates have commend how much he's changed. Geno's teammates could give two shits if he gets knocked out in the locker room. See the difference? Think what you want. I'm done arguing about it. This guy is one argument from a teammate away from being out of the league for good.
I believe the Jets have done it before with CuMar. I'm almost positive. It may not have been CuMar, but I definitely remember their doing that with one of their players who had a big contract and their cap situation was tight. I can't remember whether or not it would have given them cap relief.
Sorry, but you're wrong about Carpenter. He was a higher-rated pass blocker than run blocker. Supposedly, at least according to him, the Seahawks ran more of a finesse, zone blocking scheme. Here with the Jets, they'll be running more of a power, man scheme. I saw something about that a few days ago, and how he was really excited about the change.
Good post. I only got to page 7 of this thread and felt compelled to reply: Geno's immaturity started LONG before getting his jaw broke. Think about it, a 2nd string LB holding a charity event gets word from Geno that his FRICKIN STARTING NFL QB will be coming to HIS event!!! This is HUGE for ANY player, let alone a backup LB. Then, day of, IK sends a trusted friend (you know, someone that will actually go) to the airport and after waiting out front with flashers on for several hours, the guest of honor, Geno Smith, is a total no show. IK most likely tried to call him several times to find out what's up. So Geno (probably days later after blowing IK off ) came up with 'a story'. Anything from his brother was killed in a tragic accident to a friend of a friend fell off a scooter and broke his arm. I haven't read where Geno's brother got killed. Geno had nothing, no excuse, no reason, so came up with a BS story. Offered to pay IK back for the tics. Whippy. Back to IKs event, he was probably asked 100 times "Where's Geno? Thought you said he'd be here". Leaving IK embarrassed and boiling mad. Fast forward to training camp. I have read were IK was pissed and quiet toward Geno, you know, like when you're mad at someone. Probably glaring at Geno from across the locker room. Geno never approached him to apologize in person or offer up the $600. Geno blew off his event, then blew off IK during camp. Speculation: Geno, knowing all this, approaches IK with "What the fuck's your problem"? Bam. Yes, IK had to be go, but Geno deserves ZERO sympathy either. In fact, it's OK to put 99.9% of this on Geno.
Bowles named him starter until he gave a reason not to. Everyone was on the same page. Give Geno one final chance with a new OC and see how he plays. Fitzpatrick is not a long term answer, Petty needs a year or two to grow, so it made sense to start Geno. He has more weapons now, etc.
It's just, your logic is flawed. Life will smack you in the mouth and your perception of things will change. I know, I used to be 20 something myself. Geno most likely does gave immaturity issues, no debating that. The thing your missing is this. An argument is one thing, violence is another. Being argumentive, disrespectful, arrogant, niave, and obnoxious is all normal for someone his age. It is to be expected, the teams that draft these kids anticipate this as well. We've all been there, done that, then we go through a self growth phase, we grow up. Most of us anyway. At least I would like to think so. Now, when immaturity turns into extreme ignorance is when you cross that line of no return and then life consequences take hold. Again, I've been there. IK crossed that line, Richardson crossed that line. Their actions go a step above immature actions. They become ignorant actions. IK was punished harshest by the team because violence can not and should not ever be tolerated. A message needed to be sent. Through this act of violence, he not only crossed a line of hurting another human being, he directly effected and hindered (TBD) this team through his act of violence. Richardson is being punished as well, the only reason he hasn't been cut is because he has not hurt another person, he did not hurt this team in the severity that IK did by breaking Geno's jaw. Yes, Richardson didn't help this team because we all know our DL is better with him than without, but we have guys that can fill that void in the meantime so the downfall isn't that severe. You just have to understand the balance of order. Geno probably antagonized the violence, through immaturity but that doesn't excuse anyone to act through violence. Geno would not be cut in any scenario you played out in your head because weather you like it or not, Geno was the victim in this scenario. That goes for anybody in that scenario by the way, not just Geno.
I don't get your support of Geno. You are a smart poster. I don't want this guy leading my franchise anymore because he can't. I don't see how this is hard for others to grasp. The entire league views Geno as terrible. Jets fans themselves have front row seats and can confirm these views. Now he goes through this whole mess with IK and you still want him on the team? There has to be a benefit to deal with the mess. I hate to compare him to Ray Rice, but it is a similar situation. Ray Rice was terrible for what he did, but he would be given another shot for sure if he was worth it. He just isn't anymore. Geno might be an immature punk, but if he delivers on the field, it would be worth dealing with. Being an immature punk, playing terrible on the field and lacking respect from your fellow teammates: not worth it.
Well, hell. Geno to be back for the first game? Mail it in , Top 3 2016 here we come. Geno is the turd in the punch bowl.
What you're missing is that he hasn't played terribly on the field this off season. His reads and decision making have improved, his accuracy has improved, his command of the offense has improved and that with a new offense. He has looked more comfortable and poised in the pocket, has kept plays alive with his feet, and not turned the ball over very much. I don't know (actually, none of us knows) what exactly happened behind the scenes. We know what Ik's side of the story is. We haven't heard Geno's. Bowles and none of the Jets are talking about it. It certainly seems as if the Jets players liked Ik better than Geno, but they may be reaching out to Geno too, we're just not hearing anything from Geno. We don't know what Mac and Bowles have decided, if anything, regarding Geno's future with the team. Even if they want to keep him, if the locker room is as against Geno as it seems, then they many not be able to keep him. He may be done with the team, but if so, imo that's an indictment of the Jets players, and perhaps Mac ought to clean house and start over. If guys who commit violence, get suspended for drug or steroid use, commit crimes, and drive like an absolute moron endangering a LOT of people's lives are given a second chance, Geno should be given a 2nd chance by the Jets and his teammates, unless he has done a lot of bad shit behind the scenes that we've never heard of. The fact that he was terrible on the field for most of his first two years isn't his fault. He wasn't ready to play and was forced to. He did the best he could in horrible circumstances. It would have taken a Peyton Manning or Luck to have succeeded in those circumstances, and even the great Peyton went something like 3-13 his first season. I'm not saying that Geno has Peyton's talent or brain, but am trying to point out that it's not Geno's fault that he isn't Peyton or Luck. He deserves a 2nd chance with his teammates and Jets fans.
Yes, and this incident messed that up. All the reports you are saying mean nothing to me. Every QB looks good in camp to a point. All we heard was how great Mariota looks in Titans camp. He looked like a mess his first preseason game though: getting sacked, fumbling the ball, throwing an INT, all within a quarter. Point is, games are different. Now he is behind the 8 ball with the Jaw injury, have to move on.
Seems to me, if he was so terrible and so hated in the locker room they would have used this incident to cut bait. The fact that 1. They were willing to go into the season as him as the starter and 2. He is still on the team despite this incident being his fault, as heard on tgg, is a bit telling that management does not share the popular view on geno
I wouldn't say that. He is a 2nd Round QB. No reason he has to be cut. Even this offseason coming up. He just should not be given the keys to the team. He can be a solid back-up and continue to grow hopefully.
