I can't see it..he was begging for 5 mil last year and so he had a good year because we had the softest schedule in the league and good receivers..you are dreaming if you think he will have that kind of year again.
I dont expect him to. But I think a lesser QB like Hoyer will equal disaster. And thats where my problem lies with people that are saying Hoyer can equal Fitz's production from last year , when not many people that want Fitz back even think he can equal his production from last year. With Fitz we are an 8-8 team next season IMO , that with a little luck can get to 10 wins. With Hoyer or Geno we're at best a 5 win team that could go 3-13. And all that does is rile up the fanbase and put Boyles and Mac on the hot seat. If thats worth the money difference to fans then thats fine. Its just not worth it to me. Honestly Im tired of that every 2-3 seasons.
Fitzpatrick wins 10 games once after winning no more than 6 games for his entire career and now he's this QB that if he's not back the sky will fall? What the fuck?
After being on bad team after bad team yes , he finally won 10 games with a decent team last year. A team that Geno Smith would've lasted 6 games on if he knew how to pay debts. I guess you dont understand that some players are better fits on some teams than others? Fitz is a PERFECT fit for this Jets team. OC he knows and is comfortable with. WR's that love him. Im sure all you remember from last year is Week 17 in Buffalo like everyone else clamoring for the cheaper options at QB , but I remember the best QB I've seen in a Jets uniform since Brett Favre.
That's the problem you can't have it both ways. If Fitzpatrick is the difference between 8-8 or 3-13 in 2016 then it's fair to put prior team success or lack there of against him too. It's fair to put the loss on him from week 17 if Fitzpatrick is that much of a difference between winning and losing.
I don't want it both ways. I want Fitz back and I'm probably willing to pay him more than anyone else here is willing to go. Just not the 15-16 mil per year that he seems to want. The real problem is those 8-8 and 3-13 records aren't set in stone. Most playoff teams require a little luck on their way there. For us last year 10 wins and a soft schedule wasn't enough. Next season with a more difficult schedule we might get to the playoffs at 9-7. Who knows. All I know is were much more likely to get there with Fitz under center than any other realistic option.
So if they valued him like you do he would've been back by now. No need to bid against yourself so he either takes the Jets offer, retire or wait until training camp when a teams QB gets hurt.
Well then maybe I overvalue him. I have no problem admitting that. Look at a lot of QB's in this league. Is Matt Ryan worth what he gets paid? How about Tannehill? Cutler? The list goes on and on. And Fitz wont even cost as much as those guys but there's a really good chance he outperforms all of them next season. Jets had the luxury of building a team around an inexpensive QB last offseason. Sooner or later you gotta pay up or be stuck with a Geno-like starter every week. Not really looking forward to that.
Those QB's you mentioned are being paid based on what they could provide in the future. Fitzpatrick isn't a young QB with upside or a proven veteran with years of good/solid play. He's been a bad/mediocre QB his entire career who had a good year last year. Why pay a guy like that crazy money? I want him back for continuity purpose, but I wouldn't lose sleep if he's gone.
Are they? Cause to me those 3 QB's are finished products. Maybe Tannehill could get a little better but I dont think by much. Fitz isnt a young QB but Cutler is? They are 1 year apart. Who would you rather have for next year at the same salary? Fitz or Cutler? You say you wouldn't lose sleep and thats fine. I wont lose sleep either but it will piss me off. And when we-re 3-9 and half the stadium is empty and the only thing left to play for is draft positioning , you and the rest of the fan base will be pissed.
They got paid for what they could do in the future. In the case of Cutler he's a proven QB with years of good/solid play behind him. Fitzpatrick doesn't have upside like a Tannehill or Ryan, and he's not a vet with a history of good/solid play like Cutler. Why would we be 3-9 without Fitzpatrick?
To say the difference in Fitz and Geno is that huge is just crazy to me.....I'd rather have Fitz back but it wouldn't bother me one bit if we go with a Geno/Petty battle Geno as a rookie took a much worse team with practice squad players to 8-8 and Fitz had everything right for him last season and got us to 10-6 Seriously, at this point who's to say Geno wouldn't be a better option in the same situation? He has great physical traits and from all accounts has been working hard ever since the punch....he made some piss poor mistakes over his first 2 seasons but sometimes QBs take a little time to develop the mental side of things. Will he ever get it? No idea....but to act like he isn't capable of improving under a much better offensive coaching staff as a young QB is garbage The whole punch deal (which Geno can take some blame for) sucks because we would have found out for sure if Geno improved with real weapons and a solid coaching staff or if he was backup material for good....many think they have the answer 100% but I still feel like the jury is still out Some Jets fans just hate the guy and will never change their mind on him but if Geno or Petty can prove themselves as solid or better starters, it is by far the best thing for our franchise going forward
See thread on a possible deal already done and the rest is to misinform other teams and help our draft position
ah,k thanks. I thought that maybe there was something out there on twitter or something that I missed.
hoyer has certainly played as well as fitz has. his season last year was identical to fitz the year before with the same team. highlights/lowlights are worthless. what does a reel of fitz interceptions this season look like? fitz wasnt good last season. he was average. and in the biggest game he did not play well either. all this bashing of hoyer ignores that fitz is the same limited mediocure player more suited as a backup that hoyer is
well he has plenty of teams bringing him in... jets, denver and now dallas. he has plenty of interest. for bad teams he is a starting options and for teams like dallas he is a great backup with romos health/age.
