I have been a Jets fan since I was 10 years and old and fortunately I have seen a Super Bowl game when I was 14. I have been a die hard through thick and thin but if Bowels is back I am done with this team and I think there are many more die hard fans like me that feel the same way. We do not have a great owner because he never hires the right people to run the organization and build something for the long run. We should have had Bellicheat but Woody let the scum bag Kraft steal him away when what he should have done was told Parcels you are not going to be the GM, which is without a doubt the reason Bellicheat quit, he did not want him lurking in the background after a 2 game losing streak and he wanted a bigger say in the players that were selected. We need to find the next Bellicheat and it is not Bowels so please lets move on and forgot all the talk you need to give him another year. Mike Mac also needs to go, he cannot evaluate players and our number one pick Lee is a total bust. The guy gets beat on every pass play and is tossed around at the line like a rag doll. Woody, since we are stuck with you go out and get Harbaugh and give him what he wants and let him build an organization that can sustain winning for the long term. If not, this franchise will continue to be a joke for another half century.
Bad owner. Bad coaches. Bad players. Bad fan base. We get what we demand, which is constant turn over and no coherent strategy from year to year. This thread is a great example of that. We are the ADHD franchise.
i think its a safe bet that he is back but it'll be a one year lease. yes, there will be some irate fans but what can u do. relax and take a year or 2 off and then let the dust settle. i did that back in 94-95-96 and look what happened, the swamp got drained and we had some success, albeit even that success was a quick hitter. full disclosure - fan since 78, staff intern in 90 and 91, developed a few friendships with past players, have seen it all and gone down with the ship way too many times.
No the worst thing an owner can do is stick with two guys that are way over their head for another year instead of being able to see that and move on without wasting another year. You only need to look at who is the starting QB for Sunday and how that will help us for next year. Clueless.
+1 I couldn't agree more, and that's a big issue with our owner. Everyone loved Bowles last year, this year want him run out on a rail. I willing to give TB another shot, one lousy year with so many injuries and tough schedule. Can't keep changing coaches every time you have one down year.
They had a cupcake schedule last year and when they needed to beat a team that was already heading home he did not have the team ready and the QB choked like he always did in a big game and our owner and GM still caved and paid him like he was some kind of stud QB. This year was a regular schedule and if you cannot beat decent teams than you will be an also ran team each and every year. Look at Bowels on the sidelines and you can see he is clueless. Then when you see how he lost control of the locker room you know you have Rex without the passion. We should not enter year 9 of that and find our long term coach and as far as Mike M. is concerned he is clueless and the way he disappeared the last 5 weeks shows you all you need to know. It is time to hire a real football man to run the organization and then get a crazy passionate coach like Harbaugh who will surround himself with teachers as assistant coaches, not friends like Bowels did. I know I will get ripped for this but the football guy I would approach who seems to know more about football then any other commentator is a guy like Troy Aikman. Look what John Elway did to build an organization in Denver. I think Aikman would be the same type of guy. All I know is that I love the Jets and have my whole life but at 62 I am not ready to go into year 9 with Rex / Bowels.
If Jim Harbaugh wanted to take control of the Jets, I'd fire Mac and Bowles in a heartbeat. But that's pure fantasy.
Money talks and the opportunity to turn a franchise in New York from the laughingstock of the league to a dominant team is something that might play to his ego along with $10M a year for 5 years. We paid close to that to a self centered loser like Revis who has been outplayed by at lease 6 free agent DB's since he signed his contract and we gave a total loser like Fitz $12M when the market for him was $2M as a back up. Nice moves Mike M, by the way. Put that next to drafting an undersized linebacker as our number one pick and he is letting opposing QB's play to a 132 QB rating against him.
As the late Al Davis said: Just Win Baby. If Bowles is back and the Jets win, we will all be happy. That is what it comes down to. I won't stop being a fan because of a decision an owner makes. It's about what happens on the field. We will see what happens, but I wouldn't quit just because Bowles is back. See how he does first. If the Jets start out (0-4), then yes, jump ship til it is fixed.
The real question is: how do we lose enough games against a cupcake schedule next year to pick #1 in the 2018 draft? We may be legitimately unable to win fewer than 3 games and if that's the case, well that's where the pain really begins because going 9-7 next year is just another step in a cycle that we've all seen run it's course like 3 times in the last 12 years. None of the cycles has been good to us with both the legitimate contenders (2004 and 2010) wiped out within a couple of years, down to the ashheap level.
By not splurging in FA with all the cap space we create after trimming the fat. Needs to be a true rebuild. I would welcome one or two solid veteran additions on the OL that's about it.
Woody knows people around football. If he gets wind Harbaugh is interested in coming here, by all means he should bring Harbaugh in. But even if by some chance Harbaugh wants back into the NFL, he'd probably go for Indy or LA before here.
It's hard to lose 14 games in an NFL season. The Jets have only done that once in their history. We could accidentally win 3 games next year.
half the fanbase is already completely apathetic towards the state/future of this franchise. woody needs to start making moves that make sense for the long term success of this organization, not to appease the dumbfucks who crave instant gratification. We all want to win, but sometimes you gotta eat a lot of shit. Now we eat a lot of shit as it is, but a full rebuild with woody's endorsement will really go a long way, in my opinion. No more half measures. No more duct tape to fix the leaks. Rip this fucker open from the root and lay a legitimate foundation.
funny thing about belichick, he wasn't belichick when the pats hired him, if he was cleveland wouldn't have fired him.
We are NOT a bad fan base. Historically, no other fans in our situation would out up with as much. We are the only fan base where at least half of the population (giants fans) actively hates us. The default media mode is usually antagonistic against us. Despite all this, we have sold out a 78000 seat stadium for years. As for teams which compete against other teams in their geographic area, the Cardinals have played in 3 different cities since their last championship (in 1948!!!) The Raiders are struggling and looking to move again., despite their on-field success this year. As for teams in one-team towns that haven't won in a while, do you want to compare our fans level of frustration with those in Detroit, Cleveland or Buffalo? Should we be like Cincinnati and accept endless years of mediocre coaching and mediocre results? (those were the Joe Walton years, by the way) Do we have a bad owner? maybe. Bad coaching? Clearly yes, this year. Bad players? Historically, we've had our share. Bad fans? Wrong way to go.
But he did have passion for the game and a craving to learn more and more and football is the number one thing in his life. That is why I was shocked when he started dating that MILF who is now his girlfriend. I guess he met her at a Super Bowl party. LOL. We really need to find that kind of coach and blow this thing up. I never want to see another Revis, Wilkerson or Marshall on my team. Signing Wilkerson over snacks is another mistake on the part of Mike M. Woody and Mike M. need to own signing the piece of shit Revis again after he negotiated the previous 8 years every time he knocked down a pass. Marshall and Decker and their high school crap of being "Friends of Fitz" making like he was the second coming of Dan Marino is what made people think he was a starting caliber QB instead of a run of the mill QB who had a career year when the defense dropped 31 potential interceptions in 2015.
he was 8 games from being fired in new england before mo lewis put his shoulder through bledsoe's lungs. he has since become a great coach but he was very close to be a 2 time loser, norv turner type D coordinator. my point being, no one had any idea what belichick would become and expecting any new coach to look like he is the upcoming belichick is just looking to change coaches every 2 years.
