The OP suggested that Darnold's faults are due to age and that people are making excuses for Darnold because of his age.. In my opinion. Age has nothing to do with the malfunction for Darnold and this offense. It's much, much, much more than that.
Based on what? You hear someone say that on this board and you decided to run with that? They don't have a good line from all the stats I'm looking at but It definitely doesn't look like they have the worst line based on the stats? How many of those sacks were because Burrow held onto the ball too long? A lot of variables.. Burrow, at the end of the day, STILL, has better weapons by far than Sam Darnold ever did here with the Jets. ...but, yeah, Burrow. He da best!
Anderson is 200 yards away in 6 games from his max total output in either season with Darnold. That's hardly 'productive'. He totaled almost 200 yards in the same amount of games with Josh McCown. That doesn't alarm you at all? It should. Minshew leads the league in completions on 67% with an 11 touchdown to 5 interception ratio. He completed 19 of 20 passes and threw 3 touchdowns against the same team that Darnold threw 3 picks against. And won. He's playing much better than Sam's played this year.
Based on DVOA which is widely accepted as one of the better advanced metrics. You can look it up for yourself. The Bengals are literally the worst pass blocking line in the NFL.
Thanks for the clarification. I agree that Darnold's faults are not related to age, but rather due to his limitations as a player, and to the lousy coaching he's had in the NFL.
Tout Lawrence all you like. Thats fine. But understand that if this team doesnt make aggressive formulated moves to surround him w an actual offense w cohesive competent pieces dare i say some explosion..he’ll suffer the same fate as Sam. Everyone will focus on the QB & the new HC but this is just as important.Offense MUST be fixated on.
The first part is just wrong. Burrow has one of the worst lines in the game and is on pace to be sacked at a historic rate: https://www.cincyjungle.com/2020/9/...fl-record-sacks-allowed-season-offensive-line I do agree that Burrow and Allen would lose on the Jets just like Darnold. Wentz is not a bust. He is basically throwing to lawn chairs out there with all the injuries they have.
I know i'm not the only one that watches games but some people's comments here really make me wonder. Like the whole robby thing. I broke down film of how he's a complete WR and how good he is and eveyrone called him a 1 trick pony with a stick body who was at best a decent #2. now with carolina he's top 5 in the NFL in yards (imagine him on the packers or chiefs) and people try to say well he's playing opposite of DJ moore. robby is way better then moore. but people here like to generalize on how all the players are shit. Sam isn't shit. he's a dam good QB in a shit situation and we need to invest around him. mac failed him, gase failed him, CJ failed him. if JD trades him away he's failing him too. if JD is smart he'll try and find a better HC and fire gase right after the season. trade down and get draft picks and surround sam with a real team. Sam here in 2009/2010 with rex wins us a SB
wentz is heading into bust teritory. IDK if it's the injury or not but he's been wildly inaccurate this year.
i'm not. he's had bad games for sure. I've even listed him as a dud several times. but he has literally no help. a QB without an o-line or WRs and with all the injuries he can't suceed. he's had very good games when he's even had a little help. it's just been rare he has any help.
I'm thinking about protecting him and allowing him to gain experience. OL first priority, weapons second, defense third. I don't expect us to be a contending team if we draft Trevor until the 3rd year Let him get his reps and gain experience.
and by then he will be "ruined" and we'll trade him to draft the next tlaw. does nobody see the never ending cycle?
Next TLaw will likely be Arch Manning in about 5 years. Just around the time we can tank for Arch if it doesn’t work out with Lawrence.
How would he be ruined with a good to great offensive line and a plethora of weapons? I'm legit confused
we say the same about every QB. wasn't sam supposed to have an o-line and weapons by now? The o-line does have potential finally after JD overhauled it. It's not awful but still has room to improve. he has no weapons though and we are banged up always and gase sucks. I do get the argument for tlaw. but I think we are much better off with sam and the extra picks. Let me give you an example. we traded 3 2nd roun picks to move up and take sam. he cost us in a sense 4 premium picks. I wanted us to trade back and take lamaar. everyone said lamaar sucks and were all on the baker or sam side. Had we done what i said we'd have lamaar who could have survived behind out o-line with his speed better and at least 4 extra premium picks which could have been 2 lineman and 2 WRs. we could have had a real team by now. adams wouldn't have bitched himself off the team and niether would have bell or mclendon if we were winning. the colts used our 3 extra picks to build and o-line and a team and right now they have a top D, a great o-line and some weapons at WR. even with subpar QB play and nobody great at RB they are 4-2. and that's also becuase luck quit suddenly. had luck stuck around indy would be a top 3 team in the NFL right now. But becuase I don't follow the wave of the majority of fans, people often write my ideas off as dumb. I really hope i'm wrong on this one but all I see is us wasting picks, ruining tlaw, and sam going on to success in either Chi, Indy, NE (god forbid), or NO. I can see sean peyton making a move for sam if we trade him to replace the retired brees and with kamara, thomas, and their o-line sam will be a pro bowler
Anyone wanna compare the two again? Look at the game Burrow just had and lead them on a potential game winning drive. Darnold has three chances at it and couldn't get the ball to the 50...
Well .... NOBODY blocked ANYBODY the entire 2nd half. This is without a doubt, the worst interior line I have ever seen in my life. By a MILE. Darnold didn’t have 3 chances. He never had anything resembling a chance. Unless you’re telling me that getting the ball in your hands and immediately being crushed up the middle is a chance.
