https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/p...llege=allColleges&page=1&status=ALL&year=2020 that's the best I could find for tracking prospect grades. You can only go back to 2014 as the oldest but sam is the highest rated QB from 2014 through 2020. the 2021 class won't be graded until after the combine. here is a list of the QBs from there with high grades. (anything over 7 is probowler, there is a big difference between a 6.8 and a 7. the next jump is 7.3 with is an all pro) Sam 7.1 Burrow 7.07 trubisky 7 winston 7 goff 7 mariota 6.8 bridgewater 6.8 bortles 6.8 lynch 6.8 watson 6.8 tua 6.77 wentz 6.7 baker 6.7 rosen 6.7 haskins 6.7 herbert 6.45 lamaar jackson 6.4 josh allen 6.4 mahomes 6.3 daniel jones 6.3 that's the top 20 QBs to come out in the past 7 drafts. Sam was the highest graded. burrow was 2nd (and looks good so far) but sam is likely done with the jets as is trubisky with the bears. winston is already a back-up. goff is iffy. mariota is a backup bridgewater is good but got derailed by an injury. bortles is done, lynch is done. watson is a probowler, tua is too new, wentz is done, baker is iffy, rosen is done, haskins is done. meanwhile at the bottom of the list herbert is the beats mode rookie over tua and burrow, jackson is an MVP, allen is going to the playoffs and an MVP candidate, mahomes is the GOAT right now. only DJ is being pretty true to his grade. the bottom of the list is much better then the top of the list. he's the perfect QB for a shit o-line with his mobility. his weapons suck in balt too. that's why he barely throws for any yards. the balt offense isn't good. it's all lamaar as a dual threat allowing them to put up points. have you watched a game from the ravens?
it's funny I read an article recently about the top 3 graded QBs of all time. all 3 were drafted by the colts. elway (baltimore colts then traded away), peyton, and luck.
Is this just some writer on NFL.com's opinion? I can't find anything about methodology or even about who's giving the grades. My point remains that Darnold being the best prospect since Luck was nowhere near a consensus opinion.
no it's more then that. i'm not 100% sure on their system but they are the only official draft grades given. other sites do big boards but no actual grading system. outside PFF which uses a different system not tied to NFL potential but tied to college performance and they just started doing it
I think you are over stating how much Lawrence could get in a trade but you have the right idea. We have a chance to: 1. Build a top overall team in the league. or 2. Get a top overall QB in the league. Its not the perfect storm yet. But it is lining up. The chargers beating the raiders was a great start to the week - and our potential haul for the #1 pick.
Even if true, it doesn't mean much. The gap between him and everyone else since Luck being compared TO LUCK was just too great. Sam Darnold was a solid potential franchise QB....worthy of a Top 5 pick and maybe even a #1 overall pick. But no way did I ever think he was CAN'T MISS....along with Baker, Goff, Wentz, Jameis, Marcus, and everybody else since Luck and everybody else since Peyton other than Luck. Even Eli/Ben/Rodgers and Alex Smith I thought were all GREAT PICKS but not CAN'T MISS PICKS.
To all those people that don't want to trade the #1 pick and are afraid of the temptation a trade carries. Here is who you root for this week: SF over Dallas Falcons over Bucs (Bolded are the two most important games at the moment) Broncos over Bills Panthers over Packers Eagles over Cardinals Lions over Titans The Chargers have already charged their way out of the 4th pick which is perfect. If the bolded games alone don't go your way then trading the #1 pick is lining up in very tempting ways. If some number of those other games dont go your way then the same. Obviously there would still be two more games left. But this would mean things are lining up in tempting ways for a massive trading haul.
If we finish with the #1 overall pick, we're not trading it away. FWIW, I think the bidding will start at 5 #1 draft picks and a few #2's. But in the end, Joe D. will say NO.
I don't fear the "temptation" but why do the 2 bold games matter in terms of our standing or our willingness to trade the pick ? If anything, I fear Dallas making a pitch with a very high draft pick so I would want them to WIN and finish LOWER in the draft order. That's what you have the Falcons doing by beating the Bucs so not sure how SF over Dallas helps us avoid a temptation trade. At this point, we are locked into the #3 pick no matter what.
Dallas is picking too high right now and SF too low. Its hard to explain the dynamics because the deals behind it are fluid. But trust me, we want Dallas out of 4 and Atlanta in 4. We also want SF out of 12 and somewhere in the top 10. If these things happen then things are breaking our way for a massive draft. (Locked in at 3 must be a typo right?)
No, we win 3 in a row and we still won't draft lower than 3rd. That assumes Cincy loses out (2-13-1) and Jax doesn't win 3 in a row to finish with 4 losses. I agree we want Dallas out of 4 to avoid a Trevor Tampering situation.....I really don't care where Atlanta finishes.
Okay yikes! Ya that would be a nightmare scenario if we ended up at 3. If you really don't want to trade Lawrence then you should hope Atlanta does not finish at 4. Atlanta at 4 almost guarantees we would clean up in a multi trade scenario. Dallas would be crazy to make a play for Lawrence. They'd have to give up their future and their entire defense is already on fire. . But who knows with Jerry?
All you've done here is prove how wrong and meaningless these ratings can be. Whatever criteria is used to put a number on these guys is, no doubt, related to putting names like "Franchise Quarterback," "Generational Talent" and "Sure Thing" on them also. Not a single prospect has ever come with a guarantee; they're all crapshoots, some more than others. Everyone can have and share their own opinions but to constantly push them as an accurate harbinger of the future is folly.
I don't know when the last time someone got tagged "generational talent" and they flopped. I think it would be with the OT Tony Mandarich.
Actually, I can't remember the term ever being used before now. It seems like the FQB term has fallen out of favor because it so often proved to be wrong so a replacement was needed.
Whoever wrote that article should be fired and never work in sports again. Those ratings are a joke. Only someone who knew nothing about football would rate the QBs like that.
This just simply isn't true. I'm old enough to have been alive and remember when Peyton and Leaf came out. There were some that rated Leaf the #1 overall. And quite a few that preferred Manning at least had it as a tough call. It would have been a big upset if Leaf actually got picked #1 overall but its not fair to say "nobody" had him in the same breath as Peyton. He was right there. And I want to say I'm confident that almost nobody predicted Ryan Leaf ending up the way he did. Predicting how these college guys translate into the NFL is not entirely a science.
Interesting. My favorite three as they were coming out during this time were Sam, Bortles, and Josh Allen. Least favorite (of the ones I knew anything much about) were Baker, Rosen, and Lamar Jackson. So I'm running about a solid 33% accuracy
Ryan Leaf scored well on physical traits -- he was LOUSY in the interviews and the psych scoring tests.
