Very nice. I’d be happy with this draft for the most part. Ima huge fan of Kedarious Toney. I feel he’s going to be a star. He’s also not coming off a bad injury and he’s a good size but also has the play making ability you want out of a WR. Tyrod seems like he’s been good juju in being a “mentor” to a young QB. Believe Allen and now Herbert are guys he’s been around before they became good QB’s. to note on the RB room, the new coach MAY not want the guys currently on the roster, and they are guys you don’t really have to keep.
Any receiver in the Gase offense that isn’t a slot receiver is irrelevant. The offensive scheme was abysmal, easily the worst in the league. Mims will be a solid receiver.
Fitz isn't the same type of QB that Fields is, so you'd be building the offense around Fitz, and then totally changing it for Fields when he took over. That makes no sense. If the Jets are smart enough to hire a HC that will have the offense designed around the QB and they draft a QB in the 2021 draft, then Taylor is the way to go with a vet. I'm sorry, but those are the facts. You're free not to like it. Also, no FA QB is "great." If they were, their present team would re-sign them.
Thanks. I appreciate your comments. I like Toney a lot as well. He is probably who I would replace Waddle with, as Waddle won't fall that far, and Toney could go that high. He would be a great complement to Crowder and Mims and someone opposing Ds would have to game plan for. I think Taylor would be a good mentor too. I agree that the new HC may not like any of Perine, Johnson or Adams. I don't know why he wouldn't, but he may want a certain type of back. I think we definitely need a power back, even if he is just a backup and not a starting-caliber like Sermon. I like Hawkins because he's a HR threat any time he touches the ball. I like both Adams and Johnson, at least better than Perine, but they may not be good enough. Adams will be a FA, so who knows if JD re-signs him.
I like it, and I would rather have one of the other WRs, but again, I'm not sure that JD would be willing to spend that much on a FA WR. Hopefully, he would, but we just have too little info on what he will and wouldn't do right now to know..
Yeah, that is a definite thought (using Davis' $10 million elsewhere), but my thinking was the same as yours, the more weapons for whoever our QB is, the better.
Good effort. To me that looks like a solid 6-10 team - less if Fields doesn't pan out. This is why we need to trade the second pick.
Thanks. No we don't need to trade the 2nd pick. I think a jump to 6-10 would be a good step forward, but I think that team could quite possibly win as many as 9 games. They would have a rock solid OL with Becton, Thuney, McGovern, Smith and Fant/Faalele. It would be a power based OL that could impose its will upon opposing Ds. With that group of WRs and RBs, the offense ought to be able to put up points in bunches even with Tyrod Taylor starting initially. There is power and speed in that offense, and with Mosley back, adding another young edge prospect and another CB and solid SS prospect, the D should be better. Do you think trading the 2nd pick would somehow enable the Jets to be 11-5 or 12-4 next season? If so, that's totally unrealistic.
Is the goal to be mediocre indefinitely with a vet QB or set ourselves up to be successful for 10 years if we hit on drafting a QB? If you're happy going 9-7 every year then by all means trade the #2 pick. NC - great job on this. Clearly took a lot of time and research and was well thought out.
How many pro bowlers are on our team. A QB is all we need for 10 years of success? Everyone who believes we need to immediately draft another QB are signing up to throw another top 5 QB into the fire. Its not good for us, and not good for them. We are becoming the previous version of the Browns.
Very nice work. One thing to keep in mind is that just because a Free Agent signs for say $12mm/year does not mean his 2021 cap hit will be $12 million, and I would not be surprised to see the Jets take advantage of this. The 2 things I’m not totally on board with would be Romeo Okwara and Corey Davis. I’ve expressed my thoughts before on seeking out a more explosive type receiver to pair with Mims, and I think there are other Edge players who I’d prefer.
I'm not saying a QB is all we need for 10 years of success. I'm saying that without the QB the 10 years of success is basically impossible. Look at the teams that consistently compete - the common denominator is that 99% of them have a franchise QB. I feel like a broken record but we have enough draft capital that we can revamp the offense this offseason even without trading the #2 pick. The situation our new QB goes into will be far different than the one Darnold was in. I also have to say this - we always hear people talk about how Darnold's supporting cast dragged him down. Why don't we at least consider the possibility that it's been Darnold dragging everyone around him down? We know that the best QB's make everyone around them look better, why do we think it wouldn't work the other way with some of the worst QB's?
Well thought out for sure. Good Job! Positives are the draft is realistic as most of those players will fall in the range we are picking. I do think we will add more defensive prospects even though we all want to roll the dice on offence. Negatives, I’m not big on Corey Davis or Allen Robinson.. I think Denzel Mims is meant for that role and I can’t see JD spending cash on a player he already has that runs the same type of routes. Especially if your drafting Waddle who has speed to burn. I think if we pick up a WR it will be a Juju/Godwin type intermediate route runner. Seems like everyone believes that we are signing Thuney.. Hope it happens but when there is too much hype it usually falls through. Man I hope u have a crystal ball in regards to Sam as that would be an awesome haul for him.
Thanks. I'd rather have added someone better than Okwara and Davis, but with my limited contract and cap knowledge the cap numbers don't work out. Your point about a FA signing for $12m/year doesn't mean that his cap hit will be $12m is an excellent one. I hadn't thought of that, but then I'm not very good with the numbers. By all means if the Jets could afford to sign Godwin, Robinson or Golladay rather than Davis, I'd do it in a NYC minute. The same thing goes for a better edge than Okwara. I was just trying to improve as many positions as I could and still leave as close to $10m in cap space for emergencies during the season as I could. Who would you rather sign at Edge?
We should have had two this year, but they were jobbed because the Jets' record was so bad. Mims could become a Pro Bowler, Davis has the potential to become a Pro Bowler. Hall might even be able to become a Pro Bowler. If JD adds Thuney and Godwin or Robinson in FA, there could be another Pro Bowler or two. Then he could draft some players this year who would become Pro Bowlers. No one is saying that all we need is a QB. That's ridiculous!
Tyrod has a great track record of rookie QBs replacing him and being very good. Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield and Justin Herbert to name 3. I am in
Fucking hell man, people can disagree you know, it isn't a slight on your post or the work you put in. Btw there isn't a single fact in there, as it is your opinion only.
Well looking at the Jets, they have a tremendous 3 man interior already. This means they have an excellent ability to line up two interior guys in a 4 man front in any situation, as well as a 3 man front. Running a defense around 4 down lineman would be a waste of this talent in my opinion. Running a multiple defense with both 3 down lineman and 4 down lineman is where the Jets should be going. To oversimplify, Jets should be a 3-4 base not 4-3. This means they should be looking at a guy who has ability to play 3-4 OLB as edge. That means guys like Dupree, or Judon, depending on who else might actually be available. I also like Melvin Ingram for a lower price. Ingram played in a 3-4 earlier in his career and I think he is a good locker room guy. Hasaan Reddick is interesting although he is a bit of a 1 year wonder, so I’m hesitant, plus it’s likely that the Cardinals figure out how to keep him. The Jets will be able to get any of these guys they decide they want to target.
