Mahomes without his 2 best OL

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  1. SoylentGreen

    SoylentGreen Well-Known Member

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    do you want Gore back?
     
  2. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Oline, plus mahomes not being 100%. He didn’t look comfortable on one throw from what I saw, other than the side arm ones in desperation.
     
  3. SoylentGreen

    SoylentGreen Well-Known Member

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    Curious what did Drew Brees ceiling look like after 3 years?
     
  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Yup. I'm so tired of people being worried about the cap. The Saints are $400 trillion over the cap and they retain all their players. The Cowboys have been signing all of their good draft picks to massive contracts for the past decade and they've been fine cap wise (albeit unsuccessful).

    Good front offices manage the cap correctly because they offset when guys have their big cap hits to different years. They eat the big cap numbers through signing bonus' in years when they have space. They restructure contracts.

    We'll be fine. The only thing you win when walking into free agency with tons of cap space every year is free agency. See: Browns, Cleveland.
     
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  5. Losmeister

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    just put them on ignore.

    ignore cos ignorance.
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    What did Christian Ponder's look like? Because there's probably about ten Ponder's for every Brees example.
     
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  7. Kryoptix

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    And when he does not have the time to operate he looks terrible just like against Alabama. He is so slow to process and throw the ball he has like minutes to throw the ball at Ohio States. He would get killed with the Jets current offense and his confidence would be down the drain pronto just like Sam during his first season. Actually any Rookie QB including Lawrence would get destroyed with the current Jets offense. Unless you plan to sit him for a year but then waste a 2nd overall to let him sit a year while the depth is already one of the worst in the NFL.
     
  8. REVISion

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    For every Drew Brees there are 50 guys who started their careers poorly and never improved. We've all said this to you no less than 500 times and you keep making the same argument.
     
  9. KY Jets Fan

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    I agree 1000%, like I said, we haven’t had to do things like this lately so most people just see the numbers. Not all the creative ways we can make the numbers do what we want.

    Like we’ve both said, good teams do things like this all the time.

    I can assure everyone that even if we decided to spend big with Watson, Thuney, and ARob this offseason, that would not preclude us from re-signing Q and/or Becton if/when that time comes.
     
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    Absolutely not, even though he was better at his job than Sam was at his.

    Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
     
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    Also they ran the ball very well.
     
  12. Jonathan_Vilma

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    He looked fine versus Alabama. They just got railroaded in pretty much every aspect of the game and he couldn't keep up scoring every drive with them. Again, you're using the game between the two last remaining (and best) teams as the barometer.

    And by this logic we should stay married to someone with proven shitty quarterback play until the offensive line is better. Only at that time can we try to upgrade the position.
     
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    I do not think Thuney is in consideration at all. Or Scherff. They don't fit what LaFleur will want to do if it's the wide zone play. But we definitely need to upgrade the guard spot.
     
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    fair - i’m not saying we even keep Darnold mind you. i just don’t think the Jets did him fair.
     
  15. Kryoptix

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    This is the way!

    Improve talent everywhere. (Better Oline, Better Running Game, Better receivers) and watch the team improve significantly no mater who is the QB.
     
  16. Kryoptix

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    194 yards 51.5% accuracy, 2 dropped INT by the Alabama defense and that is still with an Oline doing a great job.
     
  17. Jonathan_Vilma

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    You can do that while also drafting the quarterback at 2 that has higher upside than the current bottom five quarterback we have under center.
     
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    And if that QB at 2 is another Darnold or Sanchez? Rinse & repeat in 3 years?

    I feel way way better to get potential HoF receiver at 2nd then reaching for a QB which is more likely than not to fail.
     
  19. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket. And that's only if you have a negative outlook about the prospect as you do with Fields. Did you watch the Clemson game? Or the Big Ten championship game last year?
     
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    Sam Darnold has gotten so good at running for his life every snap behind historically bad olines he coulda filled in for Mahomes last night and taken Tom Brady to the wood shed.
     

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