Fully agree. We would be trading a second round pick for a player we would be hoping our second rounder becomes. Jeudy is a great fit for our offense. Precision route runner with quickness to separate. He can attack all 3 levels and play out wide and in the slot. This is a no brainer for me. Don't let his #s this season fool you, he was injured with a high ankle sprain early in the season. Here's a good article https://www.milehighreport.com/2021...act-on-the-broncos-offense-cant-be-overstated
I'd have no problem trading a 2nd round pick for Jeudy. That said, he does have a history of nagging injuries at this point. Not enough to make you think he is injury prone but enough to make you wonder where his body will be in a year or three.
I think our D needs a vet. Danielle Hunter would intrigue me for a 2nd rounder if KT or AH isn’t there for us at the 4 spot.
I agree. Many fans are impatient and want to rush things because they're tired of all the losing. I get it, but I think it's short-sighted. They should make progress, be more competitive, win more games, be playing some meaningful games in December, and maybe even challenging for a playoff spot, but to expect them to make the playoffs, or trade high draft picks for proven players in an effort to win a few more games so they can make the playoffs in 2022 could wind up biting the team in the butt. Signing someone in FA is one thing, but burning draft capital AND having to take on a big contract is not the wisest way to move forward imo.
Those top 4 picks (as high as they are) are a great way to start turning a franchise around. Use them and add free agents this year. Trading draft picks can happen next offseason, like the Bills did with Diggs.
I get this this for a player like Calvin Ridley. He's 27, got 1 year left on his deal, and will command big bucks immediately. However, young talent with multiple years left of control is another matter. Jeudy has 3 years of control before you need to pay him big $. Even a guy like Chase Claypool, which has had rumors of being available has 2 years of control at cheap$. I'm my mind, these aren't short sighted moves. They're are moves to provide Zach a weapon he can rely upon immediately, and one he can grow with. Let's be honest, Zach needs to take a major step forward in 2022 to remove some of the pressure he and the organization will start to feel. 2022 won't be considered a throw away year, it will be considered a building year, yes. I know everyone loves draft picks, myself included, but many times they take a year or so to be impact players. Those that are day 1 impact players are rare.
Also, if you didn't want to give up a second rounder, would you do a pick exchange. For example, would you be more comfortable trading #10 to Denver for Jeudy, #41, and a mid round 2023 pick. So, essentially move down 30 spots for a WR. Alternative, trade #10 to Steelers, for Claypool, #20, and a 2023 2nd. In my opinion, while I like the depth of this WR class, I don't think there are any slam dunk picks worthy of a top 10 selection. I would prefer to address WR on day 2.
I'd probably just keep our draft picks tbh and the #10 would have to be for a superstar player and that isn't likely to be happening anyway. Jeudy has been a huge disappointment due to the supposed talent he had, maybe he hasn't had a good QB to help him, which also means he isn't the guy to help out our own rookie tbh.
rumor has it the cowboys could release cooper or trade him cheaply. if he can be had for like a 4th rounder that would be worth his salary take on and frees up our early picks with WR as not a big need
A 4th is more reasonable, but that still doesn't change the fact that he disappears in games or for stretches of games. I'm against taking on a big salary for a player like that. IMO it doesn't matter how good he is when he's "on" if he isn't consistently "on." To be clear, I'm not talking about having a bad day/bad game. Every player has those. Throughout his career, lack of consistency has been an issue for Cooper. I'd rather use the 4th on a 2nd TE or on a RB. Unless there's some WR I haven't even considered trading for, if JD is going to add a veteran WR I want it to be one of the following (in order): Christian Kirk DJ Chark Allen Robinson Chris Godwin Michael Gallup Allen Lazard Cedric Wilson Marquez Valdes- Scantling Demarcus Robinson From that list, I don't think I've ever seen Wilson or Kirk play. I'm going on other posters' recommendations and stats. I don't know what their traits/skills are, character is, route running ability, etc. I've seen all the others play numerous times. If I saw Wilson play, I might elevate him above some of the others on the list. Obviously, some of the WRs are better than others, but we also need depth, so I'd be happy adding any of these, but would love to add one of Kirk, Chark, Robinson, and Godwin.
Claypool I'll agree with you on in terms of play and talent, if he indeed will come at a reasonable cost, although there are some character or maturity concerns there that might keep JD from having any interest in him. Jeudy has done little in the NFL so far. Granted, he hasn't had good QBs, but I would not give an early draft pick for him. I'd give a 4th and that's it. I never was that high on him at Alabama. I think he was a product of that system and Alabama having Waddle and so much else on offense around him. He has also had injury issues and with his smallish frame, I wouldn't be surprised to see those continue. It's ok if rookies take a year to be impact players. You don't draft players for their rookie season. You draft them for their career potential. If they make an impact their rookie season, it's gravy. Some players you can be pretty certain will make an impact their rookie season, but GMs/teams do get fooled and surprised by how rookies play. Yes, Zach needs to take a major step forward, and I'm certain that he will. JD can sign a FA WR that can make an immediate impact and will help Zach. There are WRs in the draft who will make an immediate impact their rookie season. I think Burks, Wilson, Olave, London, and some others probably will. In addition, imo adding a quality TE in FA and one or two in the draft will make a world of difference for Zach, and could help him more than a stud WR. Griffin and Kroft are #3 TEs at best, and it would be better if neither are on the roster any more.
i'm not a big fan of the FA list of WRs but if we wanted to get one in place of using a high draft pick on a WR i'd go with gallup or chark personally. i know cooper is a risk but he didn't have the disappear issue prior to going to dallas, so could be more of daks choices at QB then anything else. also FWIW it seems to be away games he disappears. not sure of what the issue is. the running joke i've had with my friends is that he can't poop on the road so he's weighed down. he's a shy pooper
I hadn't heard Claypool was available. IDK if I's give up the #10 spot just for Claypool. Is there someone the Steelers are thought to covet that might be there at 10? If so, then they ought to give us Claypool and a 2nd or 3rd in addition to their 20. We ought to be getting multiple offers for that 10, so we shouldn't sell it cheap. An offer on the order of what you suggested for Jeudy would be appropriate...maybe the Steelers give us Claypool their 20 and a 2nd rounder in 2023, but I'm not sure that's enough either. I do think trading back to get a sure fire starter in a position of need has to be considered, but at the same time we shouldn't sell cheap.
Sorry, I meant to include a 2023 2nd from the Steelers. I corrected the post. Also, I don't believe either Jeudy or Claypool are being shopped. Fowler made the comments about Claypool, but I couldn't find anyone else mentioning it. Supposedly the Steelers like Malik Wilis, however if that's true, they wouldn't be leaking it. I think Jeudy only becomes available if they need a top 10 pick to trade for a QB, i.e Rodgers or Wilson. Otherwise, he's cheap and there would be no reason to trade him.
I wouldn't say huge disappointment. He had 856 yard his rookie year, which is very good. Yes, 2021 was a disappointment, however that wasn't due to his abilities. He had a high ankle sprain early, and missed pretty much half the season. I understand the injury concern, but soft tissue injuries happen.
I think that you're mistaken that Cooper did not have the disappearing issue prior to the Cowboys. I'm pretty sure that I remember hearing about that and that was the major reason why the Raiders traded him to the Cowboys. I think that any of the WRs on the list of FA WRs I included in my post would help the Jets. They are proven, solid WRs. Obviously, Robinson and Godwin are better than the rest. Godwin is coming off of the ACL injury, but is a proven #1 WR and he could be with the team for years. Robinson would be more of a 1-2 year deal solely to help Zach and maybe mentor the younger WRs. I like Chark and what I've read about Kirk. They would definitely help our WR corps as well. Gallup and the rest would be upgrades over Cole or J. Smith or Mims. They should be fairly cheap, so JD could even sign 2 and draft 1 WR, and we could not re-sign J. Smith, and could get rid of Mims, though I doubt that any of that will happen.
I agree adding 2 quality TE this year will make a world of difference. To me this is a bigger need than WR. The good news is there is huge depth at the position. My guess is the Jets will look to fill one in FA and one in the 3rd or later in the draft. Who's are the TEs you'd like the Jets to target?
