After watching the Chiefs game tonight, I have to say that that team didnt just get beat. They looked unprepared. They looked like it never even occurred to them that the Colts would go to great lengths to stop the run, and that they would have to plan ways to get around that. No draw plays, no play action passes, no anything, they just ran straight at the line of scrimmage for two downs and then tried to convert 3rd and 8... this game was over as soon as the Chiefs went 3 and out on the first drive. My impression of the game was that the Chiefs got so caught up in the media hype about how easily they would run over the Colts that they actually believed it, they thought they would just waltz in, run for 200 yards, and catch a train to Baltimore without even trying. My question is, is this what the Jets used to look like under Edwards? I can recall a few times knowing that they got outcoached, but this was ridiculous. Some fans always used to scream that Edwards was an imbecile, that he couldnt gameplan for an opponents weakness or make adjustments after the fact, but I feel like if it was as obvious as it seemed to be tonight, I would have been among them. Ive always thought of myself as objective, but sometimes people cant see through their own bias. Were the Jets this mindless and unprepared under Edwards?
I was wondering at some points what had happened to their mighty offense. I mean its undisputed that Larry Johnson is a great rb, he just couldnt run anywhere in the parts i saw of it. Mabey the Chiefs were so shocked that they actually made it to the playoffs that there was no time for a gameplan.
The Jets were unprepared for alot of games under Edwards and the gameplans were always vanilla and stunk up the place. Herman Edwards is NOT a good head coach...he coached a good Jets team in 2002 and 2004 so I dont need to hear the bullshit that he took us to the playoffs. Anyone remember the game against Baltimore last year? Where we threw like 5 passes in the first half? How about when he started Vinny over Bollywood when everyone and their mother knew that Bolly was better than Vinny. Not seeing Chad's talent in the 2002 traning camp? Countless clock management fuck ups? Constant conservative approach in the redzone? Throwing players and coaches under the bus...never taking one ounce of blame? How about the opener in KC? We sure looked ready for that one! He shortened Curtis Martin's career and is going to end Larry Johnson. The inability to split carries between Jordan and Curtis was a joke. Herm is the most overrated coach in the entire NFL...His press conferences and rah rah attitude gets him alot of publicity. I could go on for days so I am just going to stop.
regardless of the outcome, it was good to see herm in the playoffs. even though he pulled a saban on us good riddance. cant wait to our new coach shine and beat the pats tommorow.
I think it's fair to say that the Jets at their worst over the past five years looked like this, but not all the time. I think this game was an extremely poor coaching job by Edwards - probably among the worst of his career. That it happened against his best friend Tony Dungy is an interestng coincidence that I'm sure the conspiracy theorists among Chiefs fans will be running with.
Did you not watch us at all in the past 5 years? Of course this is what we looked like... Unprepared is the very definition of an Edwards team. This season I learned what in-game adjustments are. Edwards is the biggest sham in history of football, he is basically a motivator who inherited a good team here and ran it into the soil after 5 years, and has also inherited a good team over there and will run it into the soil soon too. It looks all too familiar actually, aging offensive line, solid QB, stud RB, aging defense... Sorry Chiefs fans, your future looks dim.
Herm is just not a good gameplan coach. That is evident when comparing our team from this year to the last few years. When we get ready for a game this year I have no idea what tactics we are going to use to win. Sometimes Leon runs, sometimes its Houston and other times we spread out the field and throw. Mangini finds ways to make every opponent pay for their weakness, whatever that may be.
Yup, that is exactly right. Looked how the jets played against Pitt in the AFC Divisional round in 04. Where we need a long FG, and 2 TD returns to score out 17 pts.
I will say this in fairness to Herm. We did shutout the Colts 41-0 after winning the AFC East that year. So we were prepaired for that game. But now I can care less. SO LONG HERM! YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED!
Well what do you expect? We were playing a 15-1 team on the road. You can criticize Herm all you want for his end of game decisions that game, but you can't say we were unprepared. We were heavy underdogs and we played them tougher than anyone could have expected. I thought Herm did a terrible job this game however. Seemed like he bought into the hype that they would just be able to run LJ all game at will. Colts forced him to adjust and he never did.
Those were my thoughts exactly, after seeing the first Chiefs drive I knew the Colts would win. That explosive Chiefs offense is gone, and in another season or two LJ will be, too. He was totally ineffective and I was curious how much of that could be attributed to fatigure as he really hasn't had a balanced gameplan all season... I do have to credit the Chiefs defense, they hung in there doing all that they could. Tamba Hali and Jared Allen both looked impressive - Law just looked lucky.
Looking at that game I'm kinda happy we are playing NE instead of NE. Sure the game plan would have been different if they were playing us but I think we should be glad Denver lost last week.
Did Herm trip over his lineman? did Herm miss a chip shot FG? Did Herm not run it well? did Herm not pass it well? herm also led us to a 41-0 win over Indy a few years ago, at some point players to have to take some responsibility. Does Herm share blame for this? of course but it wasn't all on him, the playesr looked scared and there is a reason Trent Green has never won a playoff game.
The truth is I think Herm would be a good asst. coach... he doesn't have what it takes to run the whole show... I liken him to someone like Ray Rhodes, great DC everywhere he went, but an abysmal HC... Herm, like Rhodes had the benefit of taking over good teams... but once they were in a job for awhile their real coaching abilities were exposed... what we saw last night from KC is a typical example of Herm 1. having a simple game plan and 2. the inability to adjust a game plan when things aren't working... so yeah... what we saw last night looked like the Jets of old...
Funny thing is, post game Herm did not even seem upset, he was like yeah we lost. You guys see Bill Parcells after a loss, dudes gaging, sick to his stomach, Herm just acts like yeah we played to win and lost, oh well, I need to go meet Tony and Lovie for dinner, I was like WTF. Herms stint here was interesting, he won which is great, but only when Chad was in, as soon as Chad went down so did the Jets. I am not saying thats maybe still the case, but you somehow think if Chad went down, the Jets would do OK, not make playoffs but do ok. This coaching staff just prepares the players so well and more importantly adjusts the game plan during the game. Herm would stick with that stupid cover 2 and hacketts offense no matter what, those 3rd down draws, my god. Bad memories, oh well.
There was so much typical Herm in this game, it made me happy he is gone. For the entire first half, the Colts have about 15 defenders in the box. Did it even occur to Herm and the Chiefs to throw a first down pass??? Nope. At the end of a half when it was a miracle and a victory to be down 6-0, the Chiefs pick off Manning and have the ball at their ten with 2:30 left. Do they run out the clock and go to the locker room needing one score to take the lead? Nope. they inexplicably run two plays before the 2 minute warning and give the ball back to the Colts and go in down 9-0 at halftime. Horrible clock management. The Colts were handing that game to the Chiefs, but to see a team that had the best offense in the NFL two years ago go 38 minutes without a first down, that is just horrible. He has turned the Chiefs into a keep it close a hope for break in the 4th quarter team.
Edwards only knows one game plan. Run. Run some more. If it doesn't work, run. No shotgun, no in-game adjustments. He also ignored an aging offensive line that had no depth this year.... JUST like what he did in NY. He said before the game that if Green struggled, he'd put Huard in. yeah right. No first downs in the 1st half isn't "struggling"? I sorta liked the Cheifs since they won Super Bowl IV, but I can't bring myself to root for them while Hermie is preaching in KC.
As soon as the run, run, pass failed, it was time to abandon ship. No adjustments on offense at all. The Colts defense this year was one of the worst in a very long time and they looked dominant out there. The players did not execute, but that's because the gameplan they were given blew up in their faces, and nobody did anything about it.
