I know Samuel is a good player, but can he play both Corner spots? Would he even be a good complement to A. Dyson on this team? That is my main concern, and I just honestly want the player that will complement Dyson the best (Obviously). No matter what option this team goes after.
Nate the great He has better size, and would be an asset in run defense. Samuels would be fine, but between the two I go with Nate
my question is what is the overall thing we are trying to correct during the offseason?? run defense is the biggest thing in my eyes so we need that tackling corner that could and is willing to put the lights out we asked to step up. so for that reason i would select nate clements plus always trying to raid the patriots depth chart for our answers isnt the answer because if it doesnt work out the people will say oh he played for bill bellichick so he threw the game or something to that extent. so grab nate draft another big and tall cb with some speed for cover and we should be good. one more thing is who is going to cost us less money but be a bang for our buck i think its nate clements. because with asante samuels 10 ints he's asking for alot next season an the last guy i could remember doing that was ty law and he wanted the big bucks.
I think Clements is better, and I think he will be a lot cheaper for US. He is still very young for a CB, and can contribute to this team right away. We lucked out with Ty Law though, I thought he had the best season of his career with us. Maybe it is just me, but I think his stats were impressive. Dont have them in front of me though.. Good day..
Ty Law was TERRIBLE in 2005. He was overweight and slow as molasses. He did end up leading the league in interceptions, rather miraculously. I'm no expert on either Samuel or Clements, but Clements seems like the better player from what I've been reading. More physical, bigger, stronger, albeit a couple of years older. I wouldn't mind signing either of these guys if the price is right (which it won't be).
Clement would be 28. You have to be careful here, because that's when backs begin to decline. He's looking for 20 million in guarantees. Samuel is a nice player, but I don't know that we should break the bank for him. 10 picks could mean a number of things. While the Pats had a decent pass defense, it's not as if Samuel was shutting guys down left and right. -X-
I think you would want to get Asante Samuel for this reason alone and you'll hear it all throughout the offseason from Jets fans: "Because he's a Patriot and we are talking him away from Belichick" True, yes, but, Nate Clements is the better player and I'd rather dish out the cash to him but in the end I'll take either of them, I'm not picky when it comes to wish top tier Cornerback I'd take.
I wasnt saying that ty law wasnt over weight because he was it was just the fact that he had 10 interceptions wether he earned them or the gods from football heaven we smiling down on him. soon as the season was over he wanted more money just like asante samuel will want more
he is on the downside maybe !! but we have to ask what it is were trying to accomplish in 2007 do we want a shut down passing corner or do we want a run stopper tackling machine very rare to we get both in one Db
Not to down play herman edwards because he was a decent coach for us but he lacked that fire that maybe ty law was use to having in bill bellichick thas why he decline in 2006 for the cheifs. if he hung around for mangini era he wouldnt of been promised a starting job and you better believe we would of seen some stats or unemployment line he would be standing
I am familiar with football but answer me this question (not being sarcastic either) but is there a difference in the corner position? i see you said he could play either corner spot
All things being equal I'd probably take Clements, but it makes more sense for the Jets to target Samuel. He's got a lot of experience working with Mangini and losing him would absolutely cripple the Patriots' secondary (without Asante Samuel they don't have a single guy capable of playing the other team's top reciever.) Plus, Samuel will come cheaper.
Some players have a difficult time with their assignments depending on which side of the field they are on, and what their dominant footedness is. I look at the CB position (In coverage terms) like I would look at the difference between me kicking a ball with my right leg (which is my dominant foot), and then kick the same ball with my left leg. The ball obviously goes farther when you kick it with you dominant foot. This also applies with Route Running, Man Coverage, Zone Coverage, Cuts, Deflections, etc.. Most people are used to doing everything revolving with the right side of their body, compared to doing the same things with their left. Studies show that weather you have right or left footedness, it is proven that everything you do is based off of Handedness and Footedness. Unless you are a Ambidexterity. Which is VERY rare. You do everything 70% better with your dominant Footedness/Handedness, then you do with your non-dominant side. This is ONLY because subconsciencly 90% of the things you do, is done with your dominant Footedness/Handedness. So it is practiced more (trains your brain to be used to doing things a certain way at a high level), and is just more comfortable. So all this relates to this.. Cornerbacks rely heavily on their dominant footedness/handedness depending on which side of the field they are on, and it is very difficult for a lot of players to be able to perform their proper coverages on the left or right side of the field, depending on which side their dominant side is. Making those cuts, and being able to man their zones on a certain side of the field can be extremely challenging if they are on their non-dominant side of the field. The only way you can devert this theory is if you literally force yourself to become comfortable with their non-dominate side of the ball/field. Which means they would need to practice often, and retrain their brains to make that side of the field their comfort side. This usually takes along time to do unless you are very educated in that certain area you are trying to retrain. It is just really hard for players to remain "good" on a consistent bases without sticking to a certain side of the field. You take Champ Bailey, and move him over to RCB, he will probably struggle for awhile until he could retrain his brain. What a pointless post.... No life... Cant sleep.... Go Jets?
Thanks for the explanation. i honestly thought what ever side of the field you were on then thas thas and you just play football basically where ever they had a need you just had to fill. so when they do draft they take all that into consideration as well which would make things a lil bit more tideous and complicated. that just shedded a whole new light on my thought process going into the draft
I think Clements is the better player but I think Samuel has the best chnace of coming here based on the Mangini factor. Therefore all of our efforts should be placed into signing him.
I really liek Samuel, i think he has a lot of potential, very young and is starting to get lots of picks. I say we go after him.
