It says our oline has been pretty good. Maybe if we defend a little bit better, stop shooting ourselves in the foot w/ penalties and turnovers, we might be able to win a game. I don’t know about you guys but I didn’t come into the season thinking the offense would need to carry us.
Seems that everything we saw in Chicago is who Fields really is... Amazing runner. Truly elite. Slow processing speed. Takes bad sacks. Very slow release which compounds the issues with processing speed. Good arm strength Accuracy is all over the place. Sometimes makes amazing throws but messes up the easier ones. Injury prone as he takes too many hits.
Offense is still not good enough. But I agree, when talking about how shitty this team is we should be discussing Defense first.
Absolutely, the offense is not good enough but I’ve seen glimpses that’s encouraging. Conversely, I’ve seen nothing from the defense. They seem to be getting progressively worse and are struggling against very simple concepts while the guys that we believe to be good have not been.
The defense needs to be better but the offense and special teams is putting them in some shitty ass short fields. They allowed a pick 6 and fumbled in their own territory within FG range vs. the Buccaneers. I’ll mark that down as realistically only giving up 19 points. They fumbled twice in their own territory yesterday, once by Fields on the aforementioned 4th down play and once on the kickoff. You wanna split the difference with me I’ll play ball and say only 3 points gifted to the Dolphins there. They fumbled immediately after the Bills scored their first TD and after the Jets went 3 and out for -1 yards on their first possession. Defense holds them to 3. The D is bad but so is the offense.
Fair to say that the Jets have really only 1 WR that can create separation. That may be a big contributor.
Yeah but I expected the offense to be a work in progress w/ a new OC, new QB, new system and 1 viable WR. I didn’t expect the defense to be bad at all.
Totally fair to say that the Defense cost us 2 games, possibly 3. Really don't get how we went from being a Top 10 Defense to bottom 10 so quickly.
The defense has not been good; there's a host of problems there no doubt. But the points per game numbers are flawed. In every single game the offense or special teams or yesterday, both, have turned the ball over, sometimes multiple times, which have inflated the points figures
Our former head coach was really just a good defensive coordinator and the GM let some of his important role players go. Then they replaced him mid season with a guy who wasn’t even a good defensive coordinator. Then they replaced that guy with another guy who wasn’t really a good defensive coordinator, and the roster eroded even further.
The money is on that side of the ball. We expect more. How about they create a turnover and give our offense a short field?
First off, I said this in response to YOU: Second, for as long as you're gonna pretend that the defense didn't go into borderline prevent when up 14 in the fourth, because they did, I don't know how much there's left to discuss. We can't have a logical discussion when one person is talking about something that flat out didn't happen. Like I said in another post the defense literally dropped 11 men into coverage on one of the plays... you're gonna tell me they didn't stop blitzing?! The commentators made mention of it multiple times, about how the Dolphins weren't getting pressure with 4 people and they were relying on the 7 in coverage to prevent first downs. Again, these are all things that happened. I don't know how you watched/listened to the same thing and have a completely different takeaway. There were a ton of things that factored into last night's loss. Fields isn't in the top 3. But what continues to happen with him is what's happened with him since the first snap of his rookie year. He holds the ball too long, he has no idea how to read the field, he isn't a good thrower. All of those things affect how an OC calls a game. Of course Tanner wasn't perfect but I thought he had a pretty damn good gameplan considering who his QB is. The problem is that QB will never ever win you a game when you're playing from behind. I posted it earlier in the thread but he's 0-25 when the opponent scores 21 points. The league average for points scored is 21.8. So when the other team plays average, Fields is literally the worst QB in the league when it comes to W-L. That's not a coincidence. It's not because of coaching or weapons or refs or the D letting him down. That's a product of him being not good at QB.
Actually the top 10 contracts are split, 5 on offense, 5 on defense. But yes it would be nice if they could turn the ball over and give this team a chance to win
Not really true or at least an exaggeration. The defense accounts for only $4 million more in spending. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-jets
They absolutely have been a letdown and not having a takeaway through 4 games is insane but you're saying things that aren't real again with the money stuff.
Quinnen Sherwood Sauce Carter Cisco Stephens Had all had fairly recent significant pay days. Who has gotten paid recently on offense? Fields & Garrett?
highest paid player on the team is Garrett Wilson. The 5 Offensive players among the top 10 largest contracts on the roster include Wilson, Fields, Lazard, Membou and Fashanu
You can click on the link and look at the numbers yourself dude. The salaries are relatively evenly split making your statement false regardless of what sort of dancing argument you want to make.
There’s nuance “dude”. QBs get paid a lot of money even average ones and even back ups. To go strictly by salaries is silly. The money investment has been more on the defensive since w/ FA signings and extensions. Most of those guys are not living up to their contracts
