I love our day 2 draft and Mangold. If D'Brick picks it up a notch great draft, if Clemens becomes a stud, awesome draft but we don't know yet? If D'Brick turns out to be ordinary and Clemmens is a flop, than Cutler turns into an elite QB, we will turn out to regret this draft for years. That's part of the fun of the draft, it's really a crap shoot with all kinds of sub plots.
... If you think THIS was a mediocre draft, than there is no use in arguing with you........ Where should we have picked instead? I'd love to hear this.
As a general rule, you can't judge a draft for 3 years. I'm going to stick to my guns on that. If the Jets had drafted Cutler and he didn't turn out, Jets fans would be wringing their hands saying "we should have known, this guy did nothing in college, blahblahblah." Despite Cutler's lack of a record, Jets fans became so fixated on the fact that you need a big armed quarterback to win the last few years(even though Testaverde's big arm was worth ten cents). The fact of the matter is that no one is a sure thing just yet. No one was calling Rod Gardner a bust after he put up 1,000 yards in his rookie season. Karim Abdul Jabbar, Rashaan Salaam, etc. There's little to gain by looking back at this point and saying we should have, we could have, because we really don't know. -X-
Dude, this draft produced several future stars on this team, NOT just our 1st 2 draft picks. Plus this was Tannenbaum and Mangini's 1st draft together and we had ALOT of holes that needed to be filled and I think the CS and FO did a tremendous job, besides D'Brick and Mangold, look at what we got, Clemens, Washington, Brad Smith, Drew Coleman, Eric Smith, 6 contributed to the success of this team and 1 is 'possibly' our QB of the future. It normally takes several (at least 3) years to determine the outcome of a draft and we had more than 1/2 of the 1st draft class make an INSTANT impact. From my standpoint this is probably one of the BETTER (NOT THE BEST) drafts in New York Jets history
With the picks we had last year, any jerkoff from this site could have done as well. 2 firsts including a top 5, a 2nd, 2 thirds, 2 4ths and a 5,6,7-- not hard to get a few good players. 2-3 starters out of 10 picks really isn't some remarkable feat. It's not like Brick was great- he was ok. Probably played about as well as Dewayne did in his first year. 3 good moves last year-- Mangold, Leon, and the trade with Washington- the rest of the moves were average or below. If you took our picks, and selected based on some BS draft site's top 280 players, I bet we would have done much better. I like the players we got, but out of 11 picks, it is not some special draft. Do you know how many times Pre Draft I, and many others on this site, said we go Cutler, Mangold, and McNeil?
Getting an imediate impact player in the third round is so rare that it shouldn't even be a consideration. Last years draft was one of thebest in recent memory, IMO, and if they can do that good again, then we're in excellent shape. Hoesntly, you just cannot fault a team for not drafting an impact player in the third round.
Why is that? We've had impact players in day 2 the last few years-- Coleman, Rhodes, Leon in the 4th/5th. Not expecting a top 100 pick to be an impact player is accepting mediocrity.
how can you call that post absurd? I thought run n gun's analysis of last year's 3rd rounders was accurate. You can't waste picks like the jets did in the 3rd round last year--the rest of the draft was fine but most pundits had smith and schegel as 2nd day selections and some had schlegel as undrafted.
Schlegal did nothing this season, but the jury's still very much out after just one season... Not fair. Eric Smith played very well in his time at safety... He was a good tackler and notched a pair of picks also. He could very well start at strong safety this season... What's wrong with Eric Smith?
1st...I'm gladdened that this post gave people something to say as we bide the time til the draft. Now, past that....As I said before, the Jets did great in the 1st round. Brick is a very good & smart player & he is only gonna get better. I thought for a rookie LT, facing the best pass rushers every week, never having faced them before, so he was totally unfamiliar with the moves & strengths....He did freak'n great.....5 STARS... Chad lasted the whole season & never, not once can I remember him taking a solid blind side shot. That tells the story right there. Mangold, barring injury is a future perennial all-pro. He was the most dominant rookie I can remember seeing in quite a while. I would be proud to wear an {74} OL jersey. He will be the best Jets' center ever. The rest of the draft was ok. The 2nd round trade down move was slick. The problem....the angst I still feel today is theat damn 3rd round. Damn:rofl2: NT Gabe Watson & OG Max Gilles were still on the board. These were 2 areas Jets' are super weak at!!!!! Do you understand !!! Jets' are still facing the same situation in this upcoming draft , that they possibly could have remedied last draft & the opportunity was there. If Mangini is such a good choice, then teach & drive these players tpo bring the best out of them. These are 2 big players. The worse scenerio is they would have been back-ups. Jets' wouldn't still be looking with such urgency at trying to acquire a NT & still need to build the re whole right side of OL. They don't even have that many draft picks this year. Do you understand now ??? Well, I don't want to be direspectful to anyone on the football acumen, but Jets' have more needs than high draft picks. For me, thats a problem....cause I'm tired of watching a non-championship team. Especially when winning a championship is attainable. Hey....We can't turn back the clock, but If Tangini had a chance to do that 3rd round over again....I can guarantee that he would have taken different players. A NT is what makes a 3 - 4 go. Just like 2 strong OG next to the {C} center keep the QB from getting bum-rushed. Jets' are weak at both of these fundamental foundation positions. How the Jets' fill in these holes, is Tangini's job, but me the fan have to suffer thru it until or if they get it right. Also, how many seasons' is it gonna take? Plus, if Jets' don't fix these weaknesses, Jets' won't make playoffs this season & season will be brutal.
your right Mangini should have predicted that Pouha would get injured in training camp and be out for the whole season and drafted these guys for depth instead :up:
Okay, this is a ridiculous analysis. If a baseball hitter goes 4 for 6 with 3 HR's and two BB's do you consider that a bad performance and start telling him that he "needs to do better"? It's POSSIBLE for him to do better, but saying he needs to do better is ridiculous. Sure he could have hit 5 more HR's but that's unrealistic and no one has ever done that (even the best draft of all time by the Steelers had a couple of bad picks). Honestly, in the draft a .500 average is better than good enough. .400 is acceptable and even .200 is okay if you get one really good player. Fact of the matter is that the FO did an amazing job last season and you're like the guy that harps on the 2 flies to center instead of the 3 HR's.
I agree with u on Gabe Watson we should have picked up in the third instead and Schlegel.Max Giles is a different story though he was probably top 3 on the board at that time but at that weight of 358 i dont think Magini wants anybody on that o-line to be that weight otherwise he would have been picked.
Gabe Watson is a scumbag. He might turn out to be a good player but we have no use for him on the Gang Green. And look what he was in the news for recently: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/sports/articles/0328cardswatson0328.html Thats really the guy I want on my football team. Rips off his middle school coach.
Obviously the original poster has not followed the Jets for long otherwise he would know that the 06 draft was one of our best ever. I have had season tix 42 years and I expect this draft to be just as good. We finally have the right staff in place to evaluate talent and future leadership for this team. Go Jets!!
