He likes negativity. Plus he's not going to the games from Texas or Miami or wherever. When you see those no-shows at games you just can't figure out it's probably because champ is hoarding 12 tickets from out of state. :grin:
Uh-uh, bro. He was like....Ha, now the psls will go up. Basically he's saying, Yay, I have to give the Jets 100 grand instead of 60. Seems a little weird. I wanna hear this spin. This may take the miz..the master with a little masse here.
Well the West Side rail yards and the whole riverfront area are sure being put to good use now, right? I mean the private investment is just pouring in and the construction of affordable housing (or any housing) and the restaurants and the promenade and parks being built there just warms the heart and pocketbook of every New Yorker!!!! Nothing will be built on that prime real estate for years and years and all that means is lost revenue for the city. Why is it that the city pays $300 million to upgrade the area around the new Yankee Stadium and that is acceptable, but the city was getting "ripped off" by making the same infrastructure investment for the WSS???? And did that $300 million that the city didn't have to spend go towards hiring more firemen and teachers and improving the schools as we all heard?? That was a lie also. And the traffic that the WSS would have caused!!! I'm surprised the city residents don't complain about all that traffic for the theater on Saturday Nights! Why don't we close more Broadway Theaters so we can decrease the traffic on the West Side on Saturday Nights. The whole thing was a political joke and now the joke is on NYC while the Hudson Rail Yards remain a wasteland.
Great post. Sheldon f'n Silver is all I think about when I think of the WSS. For the Jets to even go through with the effort and money to finally bring us home was all I could ask for as a long time fan. It still pisses me off that it fell through.
Compareing a football stadium that has 10 dates and a few other limited uses to a broadway theatre, the size of a movie theatre that seats a few hundred to a couple of thousand people is used 6 days a week 52 weeks a year and draws people from all over the world every day and is currently served by public transportation area hotels and resturants to a limited use stadium that will serve the same 60,000 people 10 dates a year plus a few concerts at the cost of 10's of billions to the City and the State is sheer BS and exactly why this white elephant was stopped. It wasn't the traffic that was the problem, it was the rip off of the tax payers that was the problem. Woody cheaped out and was outright ripping off the City and State.
I think it would have been a white Elephant much like the Dome that was built in Seattle and was ultimately torn down. I think there is something inherently wrong when the richest sports league in the richest city in the world has to exploit the general taxpaying public to build stadiums that are designed primarily to serve as a place where corporations can entertain clients. That's exactly what the WSS was designed to do.
Great post Joe Willie. I am season tic holder for 27 years. Live in Jersey but went to Shea. I wanted them to got the West Side but I was concerned about tailgating. Bottom line, NY politicians suck. Great, invest in Yanks and Mets when they already exist so there is no additional revenue to be had and bag your only chance of getting the NFL back. We are going to have our own state of the art stadium in Jersey. That's right, on Sunday's when we are home it ours and that's all the matters
And replaced (with taxpayer money) by not one, but two high dollar facilities. Both are considered premiere stadiums for their sports. I don't hear cries of ripoff coming from the folks in Seattle. I also don't see how one can say Woody cheaped out when he was investing $1 billion of his own money. Yes, he like any other developer, was exploiting the taxpayers, but it wasn't exactly like the city was giving away a new stadium to the Jets.
The folks in Seattle own the stadium and rent it to the Seahawks with an investment lower than what the City of NY and State were going to put up to give the stadium to Woody. By the way Allen spent 1.7 billion lobbying the state and city to build it and threatened to move the team several times. The Seahawks pay rent. The Mariners don't own Safeco field either.
Because you seemed to be taking glee in it by typing.... Ha this will increase the PSLs. Ha is one half of Ha-Ha.
"Even an MTA source close to the negotiations couldn't understand why the agency has not released the Jets' letter of credit and continues to press the team on the spill cleanup." In my opinion, the bottom line concerning this article is that the MTA is not going to win this battle. Apparently even their own people see this as pointless and senseless also. If they don't release the Jets' letter of credit and do it soon, the Jets will sue them for the release and be successful, IMO. There is no way the Jets should be responsible for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it was ultimately not their decision that the WSS scenario was rejected and they never contributed to this oil spill in the first place. It'll be sen as an attempt by the MTA to get someone else (the Jets) to clean up their own mess. This won't cost the Jets a dime and this is all much ado about nothing. And it certainly will have nothing to do with PSLs, one way or the other.
Just verbage alerting all season tix that this defense may be added into the PSLs. Again why do you think I would be elated to give the NYJs almost 100Gs or more of my money?
I agree that from the teams' standpoint a shared stadium at the Meadowlands is a good idea. They've both been playing there for decades and the site and sharing the expenses does make perfect sense. More sense financially than both of them building seperate stadiums five miles apart. Where I think the WSS would have been great is from the point of view of the city itself--and again I'm a Jersey guy. Aside from having NFL games back in the city 8-10 times a year, you would have also had the Super Bowl (that was a done deal), the Final Four, concerts, all kinds of things to bring people and revenue back into the city. Not to mention improving Javitz as I mentioned. I do shows at Javitz and I know first hand that if there was development in that area, especially the 7 train going there, it would bring a lot more trade show business to the city all year. People get so hung up on spending tax dollars that they don't look at the big picture and the revenue a project like the WSS would bring back in. Of course in the short term it sounds better to just put the money up front into cops, teachers, etc, but did that actually even happen? And wouldn't it be better to create a revenue source that could bring money to cops, firemen, etc for years to come? It's just the same short-sighted, self-serving politics that has always crippled NYC from progress. Same reason they didn't get cable TV until the 90s when the rest of the civilized world had it since the 70s.
Well said my man. If someone were smart, they'd put some kind of ticker on a big building down town showing how much tax revenue would be lost each day for New York because the WSS was not built. This is short-sighted politics at its worst
