I don't want to beat a dead horse, BUT, the guy was in street clothes, walking alongside the reporter, Carl Reuter, who is just an average-sized guy. If anything, Brick looks to have lost weight compared to last year. It's funny because based on the video, if you asked me to tell you what position the guy played I'd say TE without hesitation, OL would never cross my mind. It seems as if this is going to be his playing weight, somewhere in the 285-295 range. Let's just hope that he can improve upon his technique from last year as there's nothing saying that you have to be the size of Marcus McNeil to excel in an OT position. FYI, tried in vain to find the video, it was Brick being interviewed at Freeport HS here on the island.
I was hoping Brick could have bulked up a little since last year, KOZ. If he doesn't have the weight going into TC, working in that 100-degree heat won't help. The only knock on the guy has always been his weight, but let's hope it's not a huge factor in his development and performance going forward.
I think that once he is 25-26 he will hold 310 pretty easily.....why the coaching staff is not on his ass to bulk up is beyond me, I guess they are just comfortable with him under 300 so long as he performs.
Some fans aren't satisfied with the amount of improvement they've seen in Ferguson. They seem to expect miracles, even compare him to Mangold's improvement and knock the guy. Not everybody's going to make the move to the NFL and become an overnight success. I think Brick be just fine for us in the long term. I love what I see Tangini doing with our lines.
Aside from the draft last year, Tangini hasn't done anything with our offensive line. We still have a huge question mark at left gaurd, and two average players on the right side.
I don't think anyone is "knocking" D'Brick in this thread. His weight is a legitimate concern - we've even seen quotes from our CS stating so.
Why would you take away what they did in one of the two drafts they have run so far. They took two OLineman in the first round of that draft. Last year they worked on improving the Oline & this year the Dline. As of right now there isn't a huge question mark at LG, there is a seasoned veteran plus two young guys that provide quality depth and competition.The best Olines in the league are made up of average players, a good Oline doesn't need a superstar at every position, just the ability to work well as a unit.
I didn't say anyone in this thread was knocking Brick. I was just referring to general criticism in the past of Brick's weight. I'm just saying I think it's overblown IMO... not a big deal... so perhaps we're in agreement on that. I don't lay awake at night worrying about Brick's weith, that's all I'm saying. I think that'll all work out as he matures.
And aside from his past superbowl wins, Tom Brady isn't much of a quarterback either. Of course, I'm being facetious, but my point is, I don't see how you can cast aside those two picks and then state that Tangini "hasn't done anything." Those two picks were huge.
Muscle is heavier than fat guys... He could have gained weight (muscle) and look trimmer believe it or not.
True, and don't forget, him possibly looking trimmer is still all speculation. I don't think anyone has seen his actual weight so far (going into TC), have they?
Id have to side with predator on this one. We havent done nearly enough to secure the o-line. We have been signing career back ups to start n the defensive line or out of football players. Plus with brick does'nt he need to play year two to gauge his impovement?
Before we're all crushed by the speculative sky, let's see what his actual playing weight turns out to be. With that said, I do hope the image of Feguson being repeatedly shoved over by Aaron Schobel grows increasingly distant this year.
First of all, what did I say that possibly makes you think I was taking anything away from last year's draft? If anything, I was praising it, by mentioning that Tangini did, in fact, address the o-line. Secondly, there is a huge question mark at left gaurd. No one knows if Kendall is going to be on the roster, and if he is on the roster, there's a good chance he will "hold out". The two young guys, while they have the potential, are as you said, depth. They have done nothing to warrant any compliments other than that they did alright in mini-camp. No, a good o-line does not need superstars at every position, and yes, they do need to have the ability to work together. But they don't "just need" the ability to work together. And I wouldn't make a generalized statement about the best o-lines being average players, they surely are more talented than average players if they are to be the best in the league. What the hell is that Tom Brady comment even supposed to mean? Even in the years he hasn't won a Super Bowl he's been one of the top quarterbacks in the league. And again, I did not cast aside the picks from last year. I like the picks from last year. If I had just went on and said that i didn't like what we have done with out line you most definately would have had a comeback like, "Well what about the two picks from last year?" So I went ahead and put that little precurser in there, just so everyone knows I'm discussing the other 3/5 of the line.
Strangely enough, a friend of mine ran into Brick at Chilli's in Westbury 2 weeks ago. This was one year after seeing him at the same Chilli's at around the same time last year. He also told me that he looked lighter and leaner. So maybe this is the case. I hope it's muscle.
For the record, the purpose of this thread wasn't to start a "Doom and Gloom" campaign re our starting OL. Just an observation that he has trimmed down from last year's already "light" playing weight.
Sorry, I thought you had when you stated, "Aside from the draft last year, Tangini hasn't done anything with our offensive line." I thought you were minimizing or trivializing the way Tangini addressed our needs in that draft. As far as Tom Brady, I was being facetious with my comment and perhaps you didn't read that in my reply as well. But look, I guess your main point is that more can still be done with our O-line and I'm in total agreement. There's always room for improvement. My original post was that "I love what I see Tangini doing with our lines." In context, I meant that as an overall evaluation of the past several seasons and not necessarily just this past off-season, and certainly not necessarily just the O-line alone. As far as Kendall goes, we have to see where we go with that, but I'm not ready to send out a Mayday on our O-line just yet.
Someone else mentioned it but it bears repeating that it is possible to gain weight, while also looking thinner and leaner. I only played HS football many years ago, but during one offseason I had gained about 25lbs, but also looked a lot thinner. I had burned off a lot of fat and put on mainly muscle. He doesn't have to be a fat-ass to stop a bullrush...he just needs to be stronger. I'd rather have a 290lb athletic tackle who's stronger than a 320lb fat-ass who can't move out of his own way. Increased weight doesn't necessarily equate to increased strength.
I know they are cheap shot artists but for years Denver's O line has been one of the lightest and has done very well.
