What I don't grasp is if any of you guys watch the games. Every time I reference a long pass he threw for a TD, I get an answer like "everyone gets lucky" or "that was the only one". When he throws a 30 yard pass you all say it was a 10 yard pass and the receiver ran the rest of the way. Watch the games is all I can say. All you amatuer coaches and your "8 guys in the box", watch the games. Did his numbers drop last year? Yes. Was he a play action QB with a running game that did absolutely nothing? Did we still manage 10 wins and the playoffs? Watch the games and you tell me.
You mean that bone-head play when he couldn't stop the Pats running game? The way they were running on us, no way we win that game. We couldn't get them off the field.
The best part is that when Chad gets a long completion, it's "The WR made a great catch to bail Chad out". When Kellen throws one, like to Brad Smith last week who made an awesome sliding catch, it's "see, Kellen can throw it deep". Basically, when Chad gets a long completion, people say it's the WR making the play, but when it's any other QB, it's the QB making the play. It's comical.
They run that play a lot and it's worked numerous times, but keep harping on the one time it didn't. You also fail to mention how the rest of the team just stood there as the Pats player picked up the ball. It was right at Brick's feet. Cry about Chad throwing it all you want, but why no mention of the rest of the players who actually failed to play to the whistle?
Yeah. Apparently when we go from Chad to Clemens in the pre-season, we also replace Swann and Stallworth at WR with you and me.
DBrick is a rookie, the only reason Chad is an NFL QB is his brain. I hate the play, I always have hated the play, the only time it's a good play is when you have backed a team off with a series of deep passes and you have a guy like Santana Moss out wide. Frankly if it had been a WR screen and not a lateral and Chad threw it against that D it's a dumb play. Shot shouldn't have called the play but Chad was checking off all season and he was looking right at the D, he can't throw that ball either as a lateral or a screen.
Chad last week got a 79 yard T/D pass that was a pumpfake that Leon caught and ran 45 yards and shook two defenders for a T/D. The passes Clemens threw were 50 yards in the air that hit the Wr's in Stride and the one to Mccareins was split between two defenders. If you can't tell the difference then I don't know what to tell you. What is so hard to understand that the two passes Clemens completed in consecutive series would be a yearly highlight for Chad!
Do you think the Pats line up that close to the line of scrimmage on any other Qb who went to the playoffs last year. Actually they would not do that against 80% of the Qb in the league! That was totally disrespectful to Chad. Why didn't he audible out of the play and hit one of his Wr on a Fly pattern. They had single coverage because they sent the whole team at Chad!
Why is a pass 40 yards in the air caught in the endzone better than one 15 yards in the air that the receiver takes the other 25 yards? 6 points is 6 points.
WOW...I'd like to see the guy that can throw the QB 40-50 yards in the air. I don't see how that would open up the offense, however....
It's not but a pass that's thrown to the 1 and picked off beats the hell out of a pass picked off at the 25 or 35.
Because the threat of the deep ball keeps the safetys out of the box and opens up the run game. :hackett:
The safety is kept out of the box by speed on the perimeter, not the long ball. Generally speaking, most CB's tend to be faster than WR's and can turn and run down the field, and the longer the pass, the less accurate it's likely to be. What backs the safeties up, is the threat of someone on the perimeter being able to out run the rest of the defense after beating a man between 5-15 yards down the field. Thats why it never helped having Curtis. Even if you get the corner, he's only getting 20 yards. You need a Faster RB, and a Faster Slot guy.
The pass to McCarreins was 45 yards, and the pass to Brad Smith was 34 yards. They both weren't 50 yards. 30 is closer to 34 than it is to 50. Also, since when is the WR sliding to make the catch "in stride"? Also, Chad had a bomb to McCarreins earlier that was plenty far where the refs missed the PI because JMAC could only get one hand on the ball because of the PI. Forget about that? Of course you did. Chad actually throws a beautiful deep pass when he wants to throw it. His main problem are those throws where he needs to throw it on a rope. I, and just about anyone who has supported Chad, will admit to that. But the people that continually hate on the guy and say "he can't throw it deep" are basically talking out of their ass.
Actually Neither one of Clemens passes were for 50. McCariens catch was 45, and that ball was just thrown down the field for grabs, and Justin came away with it, and the next pass was 35 yards, TOTAL. Chads pass to Leon was longer than the second, and hit the RB in stride, with a Defender trailing underneath, and one over the top. (Ball placed, on the spot, between two converging defenders, 10 yards apart, roughly 35-40 yards down the field...)
It's like politicians. Say the same thing enough times and everyone starts to believe it. Some of these guys have been posting the same stuff since the New England game on Jan 7 and before that. If every pass isn't a bomb for a TD then the guy sucks. Regarding Clemens, I thought the pass to JMac was beautiful, easily the best pass thrown by either guy this pre season. The one to Smith wasn't perfect but he got it there, the INT was underthrown. As I said the other day, if Chad threw that ball this site would have crashed.
