Chad's Accuracy is "Shocking" - Players Explain the Short Passing Strategy

So I guess what I should take away from this article is that Cotchery doesn't think we should bench, cut, or trade Pennington like so many others on this board?

TBTF

 

Ok Jerricho...their secondary was playing very far back except for the times that they had 8 or 9 guys in the box. Yup

 

I don't have a problem with his accuracy, obviously. Nobody could. That accuracy played well with the Bills' gameplan. They were playing bend but don't break. Great. That means the receivers were given a cushion and allowed to run short patterns. Chad uses timing to throw to spots where the receivers are supposed to be, and it was successful on the short throws yesterday.

My problem was that he committed too much to the timing because it was working underneath. It worked on the short routes because Buffalo allowed receivers to get into space when under 10 yards. However, Chad relied too heavily on timing when it came to any longer patterns. He threw based on timing and completely ignored the coverage because Buffalo was giving him the short routes. There were several times when I questioned whether he even bothered to look at what was going on with the coverage, or simply threw where he assumed his receiver would end up in an ideal situation.

The two interceptions were among the worst decisions a QB can make. There was no way either throw should have been made due to the coverage being run. Buffalo allowed him the short throws, and he acted as though he assumed the coverage would allow the intermediate throws as well.

The other problem I had was with his mechanics. I've never seen his passes look so poor, and I wondered whether he was hampered by lingering problems with his ankle or a problem with his arm. Every pass over 10 yards didn't just have touch, it wobbled. His control suffered precipitously over that 10 yard mark, whereas he usually has accuracy to 20. That's a problem.

 

Cotch still has concussion from that high ball he caught.

 

I mean, he said it himself:

"The ball came out weird". It came out weird all day. I'm not concerned because he lost. I'm concerned because mentally and physically, he looked like he's struggling.

 

You'll have to forgive me if I take a quote from a very classy, never-throw-a-teammate-under-the-bus kind of player on a team's proprietary website with a grain of salt.

Cotch would never say a damaging thing about a teammate and, if he did, the Jets wouldn't print it on their own website.

 

It just happened yesterday. I thought he played well in Week 1 and Week 3. I voted to start him next week. I still do. It may have just been a rough game. However, it's a reason for concern if it continues. I had concerns while watching the game, not during the weeks prior.

 

No offense, but what does this article prove?

That there is no shortage of fluff pieces on the Jets' own team web site?

That when Cotchery says ?Looking at the stats at the end of the game, I was like, ?Wow, I didn?t know he put up those numbers,? ?, it tells you that even his own guys don't see some great performance out of him on the field?

That Chad has no problem lying to everyone that the supposedly deadly accurate arm of his let a ball come out of his hand wierd?

What exactly is your point bro? Seriously. I was a Chad evangelist, so it's not like I've always been down on the guy. Hell, I defended him until that last drive on Sunday. But enough is enough.

You know Vinny T was deadly accurate throwing to Curtis Martin in the backfield too. When he threw it 25 yards downfield, on the other hand, it had a nasty tendency to wind up hitting the wrong colored jersey in the numbers.

I'm sick and tired of subpar Jets QBs, whether it's because they can't throw far, or throw hard but with no accuracy, or don't get how to read defenses.

Chad's a nice guy, no question. So was Boomer Esiason. So was Vinny. Know what else they all have in common? None of them ever won the big game. All playoff caliber QBs, but none could seal the deal.

I still love Chad, and I wish with all my heart that he had the ability to lead us to a title, but he doesn't. He's Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, minus the arm. I've been loyal to Chad long enough. My first loyalty is to the New York Jets, and their pursuit of a Lombardi trophy. I don't care if it's Kellen Clemens, Chad Pennington, or even Vinny T coming out of retirement again. My loyalty to a player only stretches as far as their ability to win games. I no longer have the confidence that Chad can win games.

So, again I ask, what's the point of posting the article?

 

All this change of heart after one game? You were pretty staunchly in his corner. I've had mixed feelings all along, but I'm still willing to give him the start next week to see if it was a poor game or if there's a problem. He may very well have something wrong with his arm right now, which they need to determine.

 

Chad is just off to a slow start
That is all we hope as hopefully
He will get better!

 

Sorry MM but you really need to watch the game again. Im not defending Pennington because I think he played fine, but Im telling you how it is.

The Bills almost never played with 8 or 9 guys in the box; Why would they, we were hardly running the ball anyway. I'm rewatching the game doing my analysis and almost every pass play they have 5 guys about 10 yards or more past the LOS. More times then not they have at least 2 deep.

The pass where Jerricho caught the touch pass over 2 defenders, there were 4 defenders within 7 yards of him, none in front...The Bills were in fact playing deep...

Sometimes I wish people would think before they type, and not let their biased opinions blind them.

 

All of that dink and dunk because it's open is just fine. Chad complete a high percentage is fine also. That's what the "D" gave us so we took it, is just as fine.
If people are willing to hang their hat on that as the silver line when the team score 14 points and lose, thats just fine AND dandy.
You say people football IQ should be tested before joining this site?
How smart do you need to be to realize those EXCUSES are not going to put up "W's"?
If every team play the Jets that same way, and the Jets lose, everything is justified with the EXCUSE, as long as
"they took what the "D" gave them".
"Chad completed a high percentage."
All of that is just fine.

 

Here's the thing. Yes, I was a HUGE Chad supporter, when I felt he gave us the best chance to win this year.

I no longer feel we have a shot at even the wildcard, even if Chad plays the best football of his life. It's not all about Chad, the whole team is poor.

That said, there's no reason for us to suffer through watching Chad's 5 yard dumps, or 10 yard floaters that get our receivers popped by a CB and a LB at the same time in the air. I'm sick of watching Coles get blasted blindly on his way down from an acrobatic catch. Coles and Cotch still have a future here, Chad's career in Green and White ends in January.

Plus, I want to know what Clemens is capable of. I've never been convinced that KC is the answer, except when he was first drafted. From what I've seen of him, he doesn't have it upstairs. If that's the case, I want to have a good body of work to judge him with, that way we don't just simply pick up next year's Brady Quinn with our Derek Anderson sitting on the bench.

I fell off the Chadwagon at the end of last year because I was tired of seeing our WRs get creamed. I gave Chad another chance coming in this year because for the first time in a long time he was truly healthy. However, he's proven to be no less detremental to the long-term goals of the team, and that's where I draw the line.

 

Sorry, but you really lost me right here. I respect your opinions on Chad and your desire to see what we have in KC.

However, don't doubt Clemens and wonder if he has it going upstairs and then turn around and hype Derek Anderson. I've never seen a more gifted college QB act more like an inbred retard on the field. He'd have a great game, and then look like he'd never seen a football field the next. IMO, he's got tools to rival almost anyone in the game. He's a very inconsistent player, however, and will experience a fall this season. Anderson and the Browns came out and surprised a lot of people, but if you manage to gameplan properly and confuse Derek Anderson (and he can get very, very confused), he's an extremely error prone QB. Kellen is a MUCH more intelligent player than DA.

 

I wasn't really trying to compare them, it just made for a good example illustrating my point.

I'm not making a decision on Clemens one way or the other yet. He was hyped big time when the Jets selected him. Guys like Jaworski (who I respect), were saying Clemens was the most talented QB in last year's draft, and if not for the injury, he'd have been an easy first rounder.

Now I've seen him in preseason, and while he was impressive, it was against 2nd and 3rd teamers. That's not a body of work I want to rely on.

The Baltimore game he played subpar for 3 quarters, then turned it on in the 4th. If he can play like he did in the 4Q that game all the time, then we can fill holes elsewhere next draft.

But I want to know for sure beforehand. There's a lot of football left in the year. That's a lot of time to gell with the guys he'll play with next year. It's time to pass the torch.

 

Try to realize, though, that for the first 3 quarters of that game (and the preseason), Clemens was playing a Chad Pennington gameplan. You don't create a gameplan for a guy until you think he's going to be the starter. The two of them are different QBs. There really isn't another QB in the league like Chad, so for Kellen to come in and execute that style of play isn't going to reflect his ability. They had to open things up in the 4th quarter, and Kellen acquitted himself well.

I sincerely hope that they've been building a gameplan for Kellen in practice, because he will not be successful playing Chad's offense, or at least not as successful as he can be.

 

Other than the fact that you were a supreme Chad defender...you and I are on the same page of thinking. I agree with everything you said. I was never completey against Pennington, but I had my doubts. This past Sunday just proves that Chad is not capale of beating defense, no matter what ranking they are. Buffalo is missing a ton of defensive starters...we should have whipped them, but our QB couldn't beat them.

It is time for Kellen Clemens officially in my opinion. Clemens nearly defeated one of the best defenses in his first pro start. Let's see what he can do.