It doesn't matter how many points the offense puts up as long as the completion percentage is high. His career completion percentage is almost as good as Kurt Warners and he won a superbowl. You are allowed to blame the offensive line, the defensive line, the defense, special teams, and coaching staff, but leave Pennington out of it, all Chad does is win.
Anyone can have great completion numbers throwing the ball 5-7 yards.... He is a very good manager of the offense but no NFL defense respects his arm....
The old doubled edge sword! Chad Pennington is very accurate and will lead long time consuming drives and put points on the board. His averages and completion stats would lend you to think he should stay right where he is (Starter). The other things that Chad does not just as a player but to opposing defenses is allow for a defensive plan that has no fear of a deep pass coming! They all stay shallow and wait to jump on his passes. The first Pick was into heavy coverage; the last was very soft and was easily picked off. Who cares if you complete a pass 89% of the time; it?s the big ones that count! There isn?t anyone on this sight that still has patience for Justin Mcarrens. He plays lights out during training camp but cost us a game and now he's back in our dog house, Chad should get no more leach then Justin does. Like the old ball coaches would say I put the Ball in your hands and you couldn?t do it. It is a team Loss and there are a lot of things wrong with this team. Chad is one of them and deserve the same amount of scrutiny as any player. Just for the record this loss is definitely is at the feet of Brain shotty and Chad Pennington. Either or.
Yes, because there is a big conspiracy within Hempstead to continue to protect Saint Pennington. Congratulations, you have seen through the charade.
Im happy to see after arguing with me over the last few months you have finally come over to the Darkside.
how does one account for 32/39 passes yielding 14points? even the field goal would have only made it 17. Seems like such a high #/% would have yielded more. Interceptions aside, our game planning needs a relook. If it is based on CP arm, he needs to sit. If it is based on just EM being conservative-that didn't win us the game and its not going to win many others. If its based on a suspect defense, than this team is going to disappoint us many times. After this game, EM gets to see if he can grow as a coach. His decisions re the giants game will give us an indication. BB, after Brady's performance his first year, traded DB, despite Bledsoe's playoff performance. BB made a gutsy decision. I await a similar gutsy decision from EM-not necessarily starting KC but doing something in the game plans-be it offense or defense-that gives us some ray of hope.
Curt Warner completed passes down the field to open up the Running game for Faulk. Thomas Jones will do nothing because he will face a stacked line. What did Chad do when it was his responsibility to win the game this week. We got down 10-7 and he threw a telegraphed pass that the Cornerback was waiting for all day. That gave the Bills the next score not the Defense. He came back and then dink and dunked his way down the field until the bills put a little pressure on him and happy feet threw a wounded duck that the bills picked off the seal the game. He is the leader of the offense that did not score against the worst D in football the whole first half.
The Kurt Warner comparisons are comical......same completion percentage. lolololol clasic stupidity.....why is this even a thread? and how long before junc tells us that penny is better than warner could ever dream of
I recognize I don't have a high football IQ compared to some on this board so bear with me. I think the gist of what Cotch was saying is Chad was taking what the D was giving him all day long. He read, re reacted and he completed a very high % of his passes taking exactly what the D was giving. I have watched the game a long time and while I don't understand all that much one thing I have seen is the league has tried to open up the game for the Offense and in particular the passing Offense. They have done this in a variety of ways. No holding or chucking 5 yards down the field. Defensive players can no longer head punch, horse collar tackle or lead with their heads. Pass interference is called at mere touches down field in one on one situations and Offensive lineman are allowed to extend their arms and in many cases outright hold in the center of the line. Really good teams don't take just take what the other teams give them, they dictate and take what they want because the Offense has the advantage of making the D react particularly in the passing game. The fact is our O always reacts to the D and does exactly what the D wants us to do. We have an incredible passive approach to Offense and I think it breeds confidence in our opponents. With guys like Cotch, Coles, Baker, Washington and Jones this team should be dictating to the D much more than it does. The fact is on both sides of the ball we have a team that is way too passive and way to worried about what the other team is doing rather than us setting the tempo and doing what we want to do. Part of that is a talent issue but on O a lot of it stems from our QB who is outmatched physically and can't dictate so he takes what he is given.
Or another way to look at Chad's philosophy: beggars can't be choosers. When you don't have the goods you take what the defense gives you, which is generally not enough.
A lot of this I agree with, I just think this is our offensive philospohy with Shotty. I don't think Chad limits it, otherwise they wouldn't put him in. These aren't established coaches, these are young coaches trying to make their way in the league. I don't believe for one minute they would compromise what they are trying to do out of loyalty to a QB they didn't draft and with whom they had no history. They opened the QB job up when they got here and Chad took the job. When Clemens played we ran the same stuff, mostly short passes, that's what the offense is. Especially when you can't run and you don't pass protect well. We have a lot of guys who can make plays after the catch and that's what they try to do. If Clemens could run it better they would put him in, their jobs ultimately depend on that. But Chad plays because he runs the offense well from the line with no huddle, he's accurate and a great touch passer. That's why he completes so many passes. It's no coincidence that dropped passes haven't been an issue on this team since he's been the QB. Anyone who remembers the Jets before Vinny will remember how many passes were dropped because they were thrown too hard and with no touch. Vinny had refined his touch by the time we got him and Chad is one of the great touch passers we've ever had. I can't tell you how many drives ended in those days because guys couldn't hang onto the ball. Except for the JMac game with Clemens, when have we been hampered by dropped passes in recent years? We haven't for the most part.
Are you really saying that Clemens throws the ball too hard? Holy crap man, these are NFL receivers. Please stop with this nonsense.
I think that the Cs designed a gameplan for Chad that fits his skillset. If the game is close then it works because he can dink and dunk and manage the game and hopefully win. When Clemens came in for the first time he came in against one of the best defenses if not the best in the league and they wanted to keep it simple and try to keep the game close in hopes that we could pull it off on a kick or Raven mistake ala Chad. Once we got behind they let the kid throw because we had nothing to loose and He did something I have never seen from a Jet Qb. He has the Ravens Scared and if not for a few drops he would have bought us all the way back. Brady and Manning have guns and their receivers catch the ball. We should expect nothing less from ours no matter who the Qb is. Catch the ball or get replaced. End of story. The politics of the game and the Tangini Regime being a Young one dictate that they have to let Chad play himself out of the starting spot and he eventually will within the next month or so. If Parcells or another Veteran coach was there they would have benched him two weeks ago. Shanny benched Plummer when they had a shot at the playoffs. Took a step back to get the kid reps so he would be ready this year. The Jets are not going to win the Sb and the Kid should come in and get his experience now so the team can know what is should do going forward. It is the same as Revis getting burnt this week by the bills. I would rather he learn not than in three years when we have a legit shot at a title. Chad is by no means the only reason for our record but he is big part that should be replaced. We have to go 9-3 for a shot at the playoffs and we still have games left with Cincy, Dallas, Ne, Pitt, Philly, Tenn and the browns who have found a way to score recently. There is no reason why we should not look to the future now.
So Chad has a higher completion percentage then Brady, Bradshaw, Staubach, Montana, Young and others. That's great but what do they have that Chad doesn't have? (Hint..it doesn't fit on one finger)
Not necessarily Clemens, he's only played one game, but it is a factor. Look back at some games from when we had Nagle, Boomer, Foley, take your pick. Look how many drives ended because guys couldn't catch the ball--yes, in the NFL. We have better WRs now, but one of the first things we heard when Chad took over was how easy his passes were to catch. Like Cotchery says in the article, he puts it right in there. That's what a QB is supposed to do. If it's not in the right spot it really doesn't matter how fast it got there. If it's too hard and a little off, like the last INT Clemens threw vs Baltimore, it's a lot tougher catch.
If we had Tom Brady or Peyton Manning in the wings would you say keep them on the bench because they throw to hard? If a receivers dropped the balls that Brady threw because they were to hard what would Beli do with them? I think we found out this off season.
CBs are like MLB outfielders. Which do you think they'd rather chase down, line drives in the gap, or pop-flies to straightaway?
