This must be an example of why Jets fans have the reputation of being crazy (ranking behind only Eagles, Raiders, and Red Sox fans in professional sports). How about exercising a teensy bit of patience? You're looking at Year Two of a long-term plan. A coach is only as good as his gameplan and the personnel he's given. The gameplan has won more games for the Jets than it has lost (with a few glaring exceptions). The personnel have lost far more games for Mangini than they've won. If they players can't/don't execute the plays, it doesn't matter who the coach is. And when you're incorporating a new scheme, you have to figure that it will take 2-3 seasons to adjust, depending on how well the players fit the new system, and how capable they are of learning new things. If this is a long term plan, then freaking out about one super-crappy season and firing the coach (after having experience how many as a Jets fan?) is detrimental... you're just setting yourself back even further. This current team has suffered some odd and unexpected losses (QB related, for the most part... say what you want about Pennington, but he's USUALLY been pretty good at taking care of the ball... until this year), and will not be a one-win team. I doubt they'll be AFC East champs in the next two or three years, but I think they have a good chance to build a solid squad here. Firing Mangini after one bad season that has included three (by my count) non-coaching related losses that should have been wins... not a good strategy for success. I'm not a fan who believes Mangini is the second coming, and I refuse to call him Mangenius... but I DO think he's a smart guy with a good mind for the game, and I DO think that the team's success last year did more harm than good in terms of expectations.
No, I don't believe it would. I also don't believe it will happen. I think they might win this week, will win against miami, and have a shot against Tennessee and Cleveland. All these close games, some of the bounces might finally go their way.
we should have 4 wins. we should have beaten buffalo both times bt we got nothing from QB. we should have beaten cincinnatt--we got nothing in the second half. we might have beaten philly with some decent QB play, as well. like finishing a drive.
There is no such thing as a 'non-coaching related loss'.... Every player who is on the field is approved by the HC.... Every play is called by either the HC or one of his coordinators.... Even the 'checks' Pennington is allowed to make are given to him by the coaches.... Pennington was losing games for us... Well, Mangini should not have been so hasty (as many on here recognized at the time) with naming Pennington his starter after last season, despite play that was only average.... Anything you can blame on Pennington you can blame on Mangini for naming Penny the starter, giving him very few reps in pre-season, and not taking him out when he struggled.... Anything you blame on the OL you can blame on Mangini for not putting more emphasis on upgrading the LG and RT positions specifically this past offseason... And subsequently playing a guy in pre-season at LG who he would then de-activate for the first few games, deciding instead to play someone who got zero first team reps in preseason.... Every single issue with a football team can be traced back to the coaching staff.... As soon as you start to believe, as a HC, 'Oh, we lost this game because of the players, not me,' you're already failed....
Probably need three things to be true to get Cowher: 1. The richest contract ever for an NFL GM. 2. Total control of the football operation, similar to what Hess gave Parcells. 3. Cowher wants one more job and wants to do something amazing with it. It's a lot easier for him to take over near home in Carolina and just do the job.
I would be more concerned with happy campers on a 1-7 team. If you expect the players to be happy on a 1-7 team then you're delusional.
I dont expect happy fans with a 1-7 team, either. If the coaching doesnt improve after next season, boy wonder may be looking for work at a new location.
I still say there is a better chance that Mangini and Tannenbaum will be gone after this season because of spygate more so than the record. The rest of the teams in the NFL hate us right now because we caused a black eye on the entire NFL. See how that plays out when we want to make a trade with somebody or move up or down in the draft.
No question Mangini would be a far better coach for us if he allowed opposing coaches to come into our stadium and steal signals from us.
LOL Awesome. WB I have to really admire your use of sarcastic remarks lately. I have to say well done. Where in the world did you learn that?
I see you don't understand. You don't have to look at farther than the slap on the wrist Bellishit and NE got or the fact that the NFL burned the evidence to see it.
I'm not sure how pointing out what a boob Mangini was for not allowing the Pats to video tape our signals in our stadium is sarcasm? I thought there was an unwritten rule that NFL coaches were a fraternity and short of doing an on field colonoscopy on the opposing QB everything was fair game.
Kind of like when Union Carbide and Dow refused to provide evidence of the killing of an entire town during a chemical leak in India that killed 3,000 and permanetly contaminated the drinking water. Big companies protect themselves from scandal, that doesn't mean it's right or should be ignored. I'm not comparing the two but the reality is every company, every country lies, burns and hides evidence of scandal when power or/and money are involved. The NFL protecting it's cred when it's at the absolute zenith in terms of making money is no shock. To in any way imply that tarnishs the whistle blower is exactly why drug dealers, criminals and corporations get away with murder on a daily basis. There is a far to romantic notion of the mob boss who stuffs a canary in the mouth of the stool pigeon. Without the stool pigeon we would all be shat on even more than we are currently.
