Again, Abyzmul, you sadly cannot keep up with the conversation... What difference does it make what Pats fans thought? I am talking about the organization, and Belichick. I am talking about what I have read in the numerous books written about the Patriots. I am talking about the factual evidence that Tom was kept as the 4th QB for a full year...not normal practice for a team with limited roster space. I am talking about the following year being made the #2 QB. Yeah, there were a lot of dumb fans calling for Bishop. That has nothing to do with whether Brady was planned to succeed Bledsoe as the Qb of the Patriots. Understand?
But Vinny was nearing 40. Bledsoe was in his prime, a #1 overall pick by the franchise, had taken them to the Super Bowl once, the playoffs a bunch of times and was pretty well entrenched as their starter. Brady didn't even get a sniff during their 5-11 year in 2000, what makes you think he was coming in any time soon if Bledsoe didn't get injured?
Again, you don't keep a 4th QB unless you really like the guy, and he moved up to #2 the next year...and then the Pats lost the first 2 games...not a big stretch.
HAHAHAHA, the day I have trouble following your internet chickenscratch will be a sad day indeed. Do you even know what 'heir apparent' means? And 'factual evidence', that's a fucking laugh. With an ineffectual Drew Bledsoe headlining a bunch of unproven no-names I'm supposed to be impressed with the masterful move of keeping 4 QBs on the roster? Do you masturbate when you come up with this shit? I bet you do.
That's fine. The Colts have a guy at #2 on the depth chart too, you think he's getting the starter job any time soon? That's about what you guys had at the time with Bledsoe. You want to say someone liked something about Brady so they drafted him and kept him, fine. If anyone had any idea what he was going to be, he'd have gone in the first round and would have gotten on the field in his first year. If they knew how good he'd be and still did what they did, they all should have been fired.
Thank you ! I was tempted to say how the f@#$ do you know his time was coming until Mo Blasted Bledsoe . The fact is Brady sucked coming off the bench and sucked the following week . They made it simple for him and he grew into his new starting job. They should be greatful that they had a decent Defense and a fantastic Offensive cordinator !
That's because Belicheat later said that it came down to Brady or Rattay as the late round project. They got lucky. Actually, I wouldn't say luck. Brady simply made a Faustian pact.
Here's my take on it... Not to defend the Pats, but Brady was projected as a 1st day pick and fell to the 6th round. Similar to Jeff Saturday of the colts being projected as a 5th round Center and being an undrafted FA and making pro bowl after pro bowl. Experts knew Brady was good, not great but good. NE probably knew this too and needed depth at QB. The assholes at NE got lucky as he did fall to them at pick #199 when they were looking at Rattay as well. They just picked the right guy off their QB big board in the draft office. If they picked Rattay, they would have had Bishop play after Bledsoe got hurt and Rattay would have been the #3 or cut after his rookie year. They picked Brady, and he showed in practice that he can lead a team. He began to understand the offense, gain leadership among his teammates, become a good QB. By the time Bledsoe got hurt. Brady was ready to be thrown into the fire... and the rest is history. It's a combination of luck, and good drafting by the Pats... Lets face facts... But the Pats are still classless, cheating bastards who deserve nothing but pain and suffering... Fuck Junior Seau
NDmick summed it up nicely. As for Abyzmul's tantrum, teams don't keep 4 QB's on the roster, which they did with Brady as a rookie. He was nowhere near ready to play, but obviously, the organization though the had enough potential that they did not want to release him, a mere 6th round pick. What is your theory about why they did that? If you want to dismiss what I said, at least have something worthwhile to offer as an alternative. "Impressing Abyzmul" is not high on my priority list.
Brady didn't suck coming off the bench that day. He almost led them to tie the game at the end. I was actually pretty impressed with his first live experience
Yes, we were lucky to get out of there with the win that day. If a guy is good, that good, it doesn't take very long to figure it out once he gets on the field.
He sucked ! please go buy his jersey! Brady was thrust into the starter's role on September 23, 2001, during a home game against their AFC East rivals, the New York Jets. In that game, which the Patriots lost, Bledsoe suffered internal bleeding after a collision with Jets linebacker Mo Lewis. Later that week, Brady was named the Patriots' starting quarterback. In his first two games, Brady posted unspectacular passer ratings of 79.6 and 58.7, respectively, 2 Sun September 23 L 0-2 New York Jets 3 10 15 308 201 107 4 14 238 127 111 3 Sun September 30 W 1-2 Indianapolis Colts 44 13 19 336 159 177 20 322 240 82 4 4 Sun October 7 L 1-3 @ Miami Dolphins 10 30 12 149 69 80 3 19 296 87 209 1
I can't make any sense out of those numbers. I remember Brady driving them down the field and almost pulling the game out, or at least tying it. I was not surprised when he went on to start winning games.
Neither you nor I know what was going on personnel-wise with the QB situation in NE no matter how many fairy tales you want to ooze onto this board on the subject. You asserted that Brady was the heir apparent, which he was not as far as outside perspective is concerned. Brady may well have been waiting in the wings, but a piss-ant like you would not have had a clue about it, so get off your pedestal. It's funny how you tried to make it sound like only 'dumb fans' were calling for Bishop to come in during and after that Mo Lewis incident, hindsight being the major factor in making Pats fans think they are somehow more intelligent because their team wins. I would bet that you're still just as stupid as you were 8 years ago. And quite possibly worse.
He's only marginally great if you ask me. He was already a solidifed HOFer and after this season they have already started working on his bust, but I am uneasy about the prospect of him being called the greatest ever. This season he is benefitting from superb talent on the skill position front, which he has never really had. Compound onto that an O-Line that is ridiculously talented, and has had forever to gel. He's still one of the best, but I feel like he is the beneficiary of everything around him to some degree. His greatest strengths are being clutch and cool in the pocket. Easy to be those things IMO with dominance in front of you. Chad was the man in 2002 with a top 5 O-Line, Curtis Martin, and good position players elsewhere.
I was at the Jets/Pats game when Bledsoe got hurt (please read above). Brady played the 2:00 drive and moved them down to the Jets 29. I remember being very irritated because of easily he moved them down the field.
There's no doubt he's not half as good without that line, but then again who would be any good without a decent OL
