Trade down in round 2

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  1. gsulli5861

    gsulli5861 New Member

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    I expect the Jet's to stay put in rpound 1 but there could be action for the Jets 2nd round pick@36. Teams above them will be targeting the QB's such as Flacco, Henne, and Brohm. The Jets may be able to pick up a 3rd by trading down 10-12 spots.
     
  2. KRhodesMVP

    KRhodesMVP Banned

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    Nevermind, read your post wrong. Yea that would make sense if they could get a 3rd in the process of moving down 10-12 spots. They would probably hvae to be sure that at least one of the players theyre targeting will be available 10 or 12 spots later.
     
  3. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    I am starting to like the idea of them drafting Flacco to let him and Clemens duke it out for the next year or so for the starting job.

    Pennington is all done in NY in my opinion. He is on the wrong side of 30 having missed so many games in his career due to injuries and never really having accomplished much other than 2002.

    I think we should get two young guns. If Clemens isn't the answer he can back up Flacco for two more years until his contract is up...and if Flacco isn't the answer, he can back up Clemens.

    If both aren't the answer...then we are F*cked
     
  4. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

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    Why the hell would we use 2 second round picks on QBs, when we know one will be a back-up?
     
  5. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    Why did the Browns spend a 1st on a QB to be a backup?

    There is nothing wrong with spending an extra pick on a QB to make sure you have at least one good one.

    I never said we should take Flacco or even Brohm at 36, but it may not be a bad idea.
     
  6. brothermoose

    brothermoose Well-Known Member

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    The Browns spent a 1st on their QB of the future not knowing what they already had until after the season.
     
  7. Mr Electric

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    ..ahh...

    1. The Browns thought Derek Anderson was going to be a career backup. That's why they drafted Brady Quinn. Now, Phil Savage signed Big D to a big contract, and Brady Quinn wants out because he isn't going to be given the chance to compete for a starting role.

    2. There isn't anything wrong with spending a pick on another QB, but a second rounder is way too high to select another QB. We can get a guy that can be a quality backup in the later rounds...that's if we don't sign a vet before the draft.

    3. If the FO drafts another QB that high, that means they've basically given up on Kellen Clemens already. That would destroy his confidence.

    4. We have too many more important needs. We need a receiver or two, and some depth at basically every position on defense.
     
  8. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    Like I said guys...I have no beef with your thoughts or beliefs.

    I don't have any specific desires one way or another in this draft because of what the Jets have been able to do this offseason.

    I merely was stating I wouldn't have a problem with the Jets spending another pick on a QB.

    Also, spending a high pick on a QB wouldn't shatter his confidence. Drew Brees revitalized his career and Derek Anderson stepped his game up.

    I think the competition could only help Clemens and I disagree with #4. Our NEEDS have been reduced in a big way. (Every team has needs)
     
  9. JackBower

    JackBower Well-Known Member

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    I would be pumped if we traded down only 10-12 spots and got a 3rd back.. just another good off season move if it goes down.
     
  10. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    The comparisons don't work.

    Brees was on the decline of his career, about to be a backup for life before he kicked it into high gear.

    Anderson was a back up who never played that got a chance and showed he could lead a team. That was in week 2 of last year.

    Both those guys had years to show what they had, they weren't 2nd year players.

    Clemens is a 1st year starter on an awful team. Clemens was picked to compete and start over Pennington. That has happened. Now its Clemens' time to show what he has before we go searching for a QB.

    It is detrimental to the team to take another QB in the 2nd round to compete, basically telling the team that we have no QB and 3 guys might be the starter. That would destroy us in mini camp, not to mention the questions and the media frenzy.
     
  11. Carpetbagger

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    I never disagree with trading down, especially since we don't have a 3rd rounder anymore.
     
  12. ColoradoJets

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    I would prefer to dish off Chad and draft Flacco with the 2nd round pick. Let's have two young QB's, hopefully one will pan out.
     
  13. dabrowsk1

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    I don't know. I would rather them try to trade down in Round 1. I am normally in favor of getting more picks, but there is going to be some real quality players at the top of Round 2 this year. Specifically OTs. I expect them to stay put and draft a quality RT, and there is going to be a few available.
     
  14. SameOldJets2008

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    The thing with that would be alot of the guys that we want that fell out of the first ala Dre Moore or Devin Thomas or Brandon Flowers prob wont be there if we moved down 10-12 spots.
     
  15. tomdeb

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    I agree-not a bad plan at all.
     
  16. WickedlyCold13

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    Why does everyone here have such a hard on for Joe Flacco? Like most people here, I saw him at the combine, and on youtube and I'm just not liking this guy. His mechanics are terrible- and he just looks sloppy. There is just no reason for him to get this much hype, and I'm sure draft day will prove that it is just hype when he's the 5th QB taken behind Brohm, Ryan, Henne and Woodson. Brian Brohm is the guy--- Not Matt Ryan, and Certainly Not Flacco.
     
  17. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    The comparisons don't work? I never really compared the different scenarios of each QB. I simply said that competition helped these QB's thrive.
     
  18. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    I don't know that much about the kid nor do I have "such a hard on for joe flacco"...it could be a good choice though.

    I have never been taken so out of context in a singled thread before like have been in this one.
     
  19. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    How can you talk about trading down when you have no idea who will be on the board when the Jets pick?????????????
     
  20. JackBower

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    It's speculation and opinion isn't that all this draft talk is... so why would that matter?
     

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