This situation is happening because the Jets gave Kendall what he wanted. Baker saw that and decided to do the same thing. In order to prevent situations like this from happening in the future, you don't give in to Baker, that will just lead more players to do it in the future. You have to show the malcontents that their BS is NOT going to work. They can biatch and moan to the press all they want, but the FO will not bend where there's no reason for a pay raise.
i like baker and hope he comes back, but if he doesnt, i have confidence that keller and franks can get the job done, also, remember last season we didnt have a plan b for kendall, looks like the regime learned and back themselves up, and theres still a good chance baker might come back at his current contract
he has no choice but to come back... he's an average TE with 2 years on his contract... what leverage does he have?
if we lose baker, we should also root for management to send laverneas "concussion" coles packing for asking for a raise!! baker did not have a big year statistically, but he did what management and the coaching staff asked, without injuries. i would say that our ignorant management team did promise him something more, and they lied. how would you feel if your boss lied? baker is still the best tightend we have, so maybe all of you guys that wished kendall away, should stop and see reality. its not baker's fault, its our money mismanagers!
I might agree with this except for two things. One is the fact that the Jets didn't let Kendall go for no good reason. They painted themselves into a corner and at that point what they did was cut their losses. The second is that another team will pay Baker more only if they think he is worth it. Kendall said he was worth more. A lot of Jet fans last year that he was not worth more. But lo and behold, he leaves and the Skins agreed to a big raise. Yet many here say Baker is not worth more than he's getting already. Something tells me if he goes elsewhere, they will pay him more. I thought in a market economy price is established by what people are willing to pay.
Our Plan B is a Wr/Te Hybrid that can't block and a F/A Pickup who has been declining each year with Brett Farve as his Qb? Does this bother anybody else here or does this seem like an adequate plan b to pissing off or releasing Baker?
How does "we'll discuss this after the season" equate to "we'll rip up your contract and redo your deal". It doesn't. From everything that's been said, by both sides, they only agreed to table this until after the season. Then Baker dumped his old agent and brought in Kendall's scumbag agent. If I was Tannenbaum, I wouldn't want to deal with that prick either after last year. Baker's biggest mistake was probably hiring the same agent that gave the team so many fits last year. If he would have kept his old agent, I'm fairly certain none of this would have happened because Tannenbaum probably would have gone back to that agent after the season to talk. That's who his original conversation was with anyway. But his current agent tells him to follow the MO of Kendall, by going to the press, whining incessantly, and threatening to cause a circus. I'm sure that's the part that's annoying Tannenbaum the most...HOW he's going about this.
maybe the common agent knows something about our current money people that the general public doesnt? what really matters is, we need baker. an old worn out TE and a potential receiving threat combined, leaves us in a lot of 2 TE packages outside of the red zone. baker is the most versitile TE we have. to lose him over a re-worked contract when we upped coles contract is stupid!
Can we put him on the PUP? Best way to handle him is to fine him as much as we can and bench him. We suck it up and pay his low salary and don't let him play a down of football. He will loose a year of playing time and be one year older and more difficult for him to find the long term deal he wants. It may hurt us in the short term (especially if we end up needing him due to injury or poor play) but in the long run players won't f#(& with us about contracts just thinking if they make a stink they will get released to sign a better contract somewhere else.
true, but baker has future potential (if we would or could throw it to him), while coles is a couple years away from being washed up. coles also whines like a little girl and is not a top flight number one receiver.
Baker is an extremely average TE that wouldn't start on half of the teams in the NFL, and would likely have to fight for the job on the rest. Baker - Nov 18, 1979 - will be 29 for half of the season Franks - Jan 6, 1978 - will be 30 for most of the season So Franks is old at 30? He's coming off an injury year, so if anything he should have fresh legs. Baker - 124 rec 1311 yards 12 td Franks - 256 rec 2300 yards 32 td Granted Franks has played in 2 more seasons, but Baker's TD total is just terrible for a TE in a dink and dunk offense. Franks also has 3 inches and 10 pounds on Baker. And not for nothing, Keller will likely gain about 10 pounds and be the exact same size as Baker, so enough of the undersized shit.
franks was used heavily with farve as a QB, baker hasnt been thrown to enough. fresh legs after an injury year? sounds like an oxymoron to me! baker cannot help who our QB decides to throw to, especially with our crappy o-lines during his career. keller is not known to be a blocker, and is a rookie. sounds like you expect a lot out of him? i dont care how big he is, and never mentioned his physical stature. do you have a size matters complex?
Maybe the agent doesn't know shit because he wasn't in the room when the conversations took place. Really, this isn't that difficult of a concept to grasp.
Sure he could...he could actually get open instead of being covered. He gets no separation when he runs his routes.
I couldn't care less about the situation with Coles. All they did was guarantee what he was going to make anyway, which is what they initially told him. Coles caved because he was looking for a longer contract. You must have Baker on your fantasy team because he's just an average TE, easily replaceable.
