The right take on the Mangini hire in Cleveland

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  1. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    This really is the most logical way of looking at what has transpired in the Cleveland hire:

    1. They hired coach before GM?

    2. They hired coach whose team just collapsed against weak competition at a critical moment in the season?

    3. They hired coach whose tactical expertise was found wanting at numerous times in the stretch run?

    http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/1/posts/39062-what-was-cleveland-thinking-with-mangini-hire

    The Browns screwed the pooch on this one, both in terms or who they hired and how they did it.
     
  2. brothermoose

    brothermoose Well-Known Member

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    I think this may fit in with the other two Mangini-Brown threads...I also think he's gonna be a good coach, just not sure if it's too soon.
     
  3. Sundayjack

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    I don't think there's any way of getting around the fact that he comes cheap.
     
  4. Don

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    There are a few other columns written in the past two days that all say basically the same thing.
     
  5. Don

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    Yep..That is why Johnson hired him and probably why Lerner did too.
     
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    Man, I watched his press conference. It's just friggin' painful watching Eric Mangini try to speak intelligently at the podium. You get flurry of Belichickisms, disassociated hand gestures, and stuttered concepts and cliches. Painful. Herm was such a joy to watch speak. We were spoiled forever.

    Question: What attracted you to this job?
    What Mangini Said: Blah blah blah. . . . everybody working as one. . . .blah blah blah
    What Mangini Meant: Randy Lerner called me.
     
  7. NDmick

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    he got his braintrust... let's see if he does well.
     
  8. Firemangini Ed

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    Bingo. "hot coordinators" and "proven coaches" cost money.
     
  9. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    wait, Perloff wrote this???? Fuck that, everything said is wrong.

    Didn't read the article because he wrote it.
     
  10. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Oh look, another thread where Mangini's mentioned. Yay.

    There is no "right way" btw. Fact is, Mangini was going to get off the market fast anyway.
     
  11. NDmick

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    2 winning seasons in 3 years will do that, plus the good drafts too.

    Other owners will say that he won't repeat the collapse again... I hope he doesn't.
     
  12. Firemangini Ed

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    Take a gander at your own signature.
     
  13. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Man I forgot that was there.

    Dude's gone. I don't give a shit what he does anymore, I just hope he proves the Jets wrong. It was a move that a franchise with balls doesn't make. I'll put it another way, Mangini > Johsnon, but he happens to work for Johnson.

    Thanks for the heads up on the sig. Time to update-ish.
     
  14. Popeye's Army

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    "The 37-year-old coach tried to project a Bill Belichick-like stoicism when his team desperately needed passion in the locker room. Mangini's flat personality rubbed off on his players, who tried to play it cool but just came off as lifeless."



    The above is one of the biggest changes Eric has to make to become an effective head coach. A team needs a man for a leader not a robot. He's got to show some emotion sometimes to motivate players. Mangini did a poor job of that and our late season collapse was a direct result.
     
  15. Firemangini Ed

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    I don't see why people get hung up on the emotion thing when Bellicheck acts like he should be rocking back and forth in a mental institution. What Mangini needs to do is win games.
     
  16. Russ Reign

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    Bellicheck's SUCCESSFUL HISTORY is motivation enough for his players - he is PROVEN. As far as Mangini goes, what has he done? Been a ball boy? Named his son after Brett Farve? The guy really has a ridiculous problem with thinking who he is... such overconfidence... that was what I always hated about him - the heir of superiority he tried to project. He was always smarter than everyone, knew best, etc... Right, and that's why he let us self-distruct... and approved the drafting of Vernon 1-tackle Gholston (because he was a "Mangini Guy") instead of Joe F*ckin Flacco with the John Elway arm...
     
  17. GBA

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    I would have been content with Mangini getting one more year to redeem himself, but as I watched that press conference I realized just how much of a complete stooge the man is and how truly happy I am he no longer speaks on behalf of the Jets.
     
  18. TommyGreen

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    Why can't these guys just come out and say exactly what's on their minds? What kind of PR fallout could they expect? They're not politicians for Christ's sake.

    Mangini should step in front of the Cleveland media and announce that he felt cheated when he was fired, still has the fire in his eye to coach, and has learned from his mistakes, etc, etc.

    I like coaches who aren't afraid of the media. It shows that they have balls and don't give a shit what others say about them.
     
  19. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    I didn't see the introductory press conference. If I had been home to see it, I might have changed the channel after a minute anyway because Mangini is brutal to listen to and watch.

    It seems that you watched the whole thing. Mangini didn't say that he learned from his mistakes? Jeez. He definitely should have said that. He always was a buck passer, though, so maybe it's not surprising.
     

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