FullBack in the Draft

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  1. Big Derty

    Big Derty Active Member

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    Sowell is gone. I am not sure why they would get rid of a guy like him, as many people have discussed in the Mawae thread it doesnt make that much sense to cut a leader in the locker room who has been with the team for a decade and isnt really making shit. He was one of my favorite Jets just because I like the fact that he put his time in on special teams and paid his dues and finally became the starter, and a damn good one at that. I know there were quite a few people around here who were pissed off he didnt get selected to the PB a few years ago when he had an insane amount of catches. So Jerald thank for you efforts.....

    We need a FB in the draft, I dont think that Askew has shown anything in his limited time that we should bank on him stepping up and becoming a starter. When we made that pick in the third a few years ago everyone was pissed, it seems that everyone was right.

    Matt Bernstein from Wisconsin will be our starting fullback on opening day.....count it. The guy had a great career for Wisconsin, im not going to go into the fact that he is or isnt a MANGINI TYPE GUY, because we have yet to see what that is. He is a mid round pick and I am thinking that we will grab him with one of our fourth round picks. We all talk about filling holes in the draft and that our O is full of them, well this is a spot of need that has flown in under the radar during most discussions. Any badger fans no about him?
     
  2. k.Rhodes25

    k.Rhodes25 New Member

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    Dont know much about Bernstein, but have seen alot of Notre Dames Rashon powers-neal and must say i like his game..... is not the greatest blocker but provides versatility in that he can be both a short down and goal line runner while displaying good ability to be a threat in the short passing game
     
  3. GreyhoundJet

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    Although I think it would be good to have a FB that is a goal line runner and threat in the passing game I think blocking is much more important. The FB is not there as a major offensive playmaker. A good blocking FB is better than any FB who can catch the ball.
     
  4. k.Rhodes25

    k.Rhodes25 New Member

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    a lil bit on powers-neal........makes me question wether hed be worth it due to off field behavior, but def seems to have the football part down

    Pros:
    Above average run blocker, solid pass protector. Tough hard nose runner, with a feel for the end zone. Very good short yardage back.
    Cons:
    Questionable off of the field behaviour. Arrested in his home state for DUI during a bye week. Suspended from the team for the remainder of the regular season. It's up to Coach Weiss as to his status for the Fiesta Bowl.
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    Not a Lorenzo Neal brusing Fullback. But not afraid to lower his head and take on a defender at the line of scrimage. Former Tailback, who was the second leading rusher for the Irish 3 seasons ago. Used in the Weiss Offense as a goal line back and scored 3 times in the season opener. Can be used as a poor mans Mike Alstott, or Greg Jones. Has above average hands for a Fullback.
     
  5. vilmas our future51

    vilmas our future51 New Member

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    we will be find with askew e is fast so we can actually run our fb this year
     
  6. deviljets7

    deviljets7 Well-Known Member

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    Honestly sounds similiar to Askew. If the Jets were to take a fullback, I think it would make a lot more sense to take a blocking Lorenzo Neal type rather than a more finesse FB such as Powers-Neal.
     
  7. New York Mick

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    Bernstein is a real blocking back, he is a true fullback. Great blocker, ok at catching the short pass, runs down hill.
     
  8. deviljets7

    deviljets7 Well-Known Member

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    Which is why I'm in favor of Bernstein since he does what Askew doesn't. That's not meant to be a shot at Askew at all. It just doesn't make a ton of sense to draft a FB that has the same skill sets as Askew.
     
  9. The Offseason

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    I wouldn't mind spending a 3rd rounder on a FB. Anything higher and I flip.
     
  10. k.Rhodes25

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    3rd rounder is to hight to use on a full back, especially with needs at olb,de,wr,ot,qb and rb. id be angrier if they used anythin higher then a 5th rounder(unless theyr drafting an immediate pro bowl caliber FB)
     
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    way too high, I think all the FB prospects this year are 6th or 7th rounders at best, most get signed as free agents.
     
  12. Green Hurricane

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    Hate to sound like a homer here, but a decent option for the Jets to look at is Quadtrine Hill out of Miami. He's not really a true FB in the sense that he certainly won't blow anyone away with his iso-blocking, but he can do the same things that Richie Anderson did for us. He's a great receiver as far as FBs go, can run the ball effectively, and most importantly he's an excellent pass blocker. Considering he won't be taken till mid day 2 at earliest, it's a quality investment.
     
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    There really are not any big fullbacks in this draft. Most of them are undersized except for Bernstein and he is really slow. I think Askew should get a shot, he can carry the ball as well as block.
     
  14. New York Mick

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    Game has change but that doesnt mean that your running back and qb dont need protection and most teams have and use a fullback (most fullbacks are not real fbs and suck at blocking) the Jets could use a real fb to help out the oline. If I was Houston or Chad I would want to have a real fullback to protect my ass.
    You can get undrafted fa if you want a half ass fullback. Every year fullbacks get taken in the draft. Berstien would be a great later round pick up for the Jets.
    53 fb's have been taken since 1998, 3 - 2nd round, 8 - 3rd round, 11 - 4th round

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    From my post in the other fb thread
     
  15. Big Derty

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    He is not similar to Askew though, they guy weighs in at 265 and is a real bruiser, they say he has qucik feet and soft hands, but that is not his strength. He has heart as well which I think is a key attribute for a guy who is simply smashing into other guys. He played through his senior year with a sports hernia.
     
  16. The U

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    The last time we took a FB in day one it was BJ Askew....
     
  17. 1028

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    GH's day 1 mock :breakdance:

    1-Eric Winston
    1-Kelly Jennings
    2-Sinorice Moss
    3-Roger McIntosh
    3-Orien Harris
     
  18. Green Hurricane

    Green Hurricane Footsteps Falco

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    Hey, that would not be a bad draft by any stretch of the imagination. Though, no All-cane mock is complete without Devin Hester.

    Also, too bad we can't trade for Kevin Everett, I'm pretty sure someone around here was touting him as the single greatest football player to ever live around this time last year... :grin:
     
  19. 1028

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    Touche :lol: I still think he can be a dynamic playmaker at the position if he devotes himself. Solid hands and great athletic ability, if he puts on some weight and improves his blocking, watch out! Hes got a kickass name too, admit it

    I mightve gone a tad overboard with the all Gonzalez comparisons tho :)
     
  20. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    Why are we talking about drafting a FB? We still have a guy named BJ Askew whom we drafted in Round three a few years ago...
     

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