Huh. I saw him audible in the very first win for the Packes, when he came in to replace injured Majikowski in Sept 1992, and if you want you can probably find on youtube Favre's postgame interview (with OJ of all people!) after that game where he talks about how he got Kittrick Taylor open for the game winning TD in the last 20 seconds of that game by seeing he could freeze the safety with a pump fake. Not sure what you call "read a defense," but that works for me. And there is of course Favre's near legendary career at Southern Miss (he still holds all the records there too), but no doubt that was due to the fantastic team around him that carried him and hid all his blatant deficiencies, just like they did 15 of the 16 years he was at GB. Since he was a total clueless southern bumpkus whe he was first in the NFL, obviously he was completely clueless how to play football (audibel? what's an audible?) when he was in college. And man what idiots the Jets were in wanting to draft this total clown with their first draft in the 1991, even doing all they could to trade up their first pick to get him. What an idiot that Ron Wolf was, he clearly knew dick about evaluating football ability. And it's amazing how you Jets fans have uncovered something that Packers fans were clueless to for 16 years -- that Favre never learned the playbook. I thought I've seen evidence to the contrary over two decades, but what do I know, I live in Wisconsin after all so I'm probably just an idiot. And EVERYONE knows that Holmgren was a VERY weak & easygoing HC, he would let his starting QB get away with not learning the playbook. You guys know and can see SO much more than us mere Packer fans. My own eyes tell me none of this is true ... but it all must be, I read it on the internet, more specifically theganggreen.com No higher authority on anything and everything football there is, master Yoda. :rofl:
p.s. please let me know if there's not quite enough sarcasm heaped on that last post of mine ^^^, I'm sure I can manage more. Just a random comment: you do realize Favre has a nearly legendary memory for plays right? He can remember just about every play he's ever been a part of ? AND when talking about them in interviews he DOES use the playcall terminology to describe them? I think there was even a reference to that in some Jets articles at the beginning of the season. How he was looking at the Jets playbook and said something like "Yeah, this is just like a play we called in week 3 of 1997, I threw to Antonio Freeman?" I'm sure you all have an explanation for that, I am prepared to yet again be schooled.
i think people who say the whole chemistry and playbook argument is bogus are out of there mind. especially in relation to a qb and his wr's seriously? certain guys have tendencies to cut routes short, prefer certain routes in certain coverage, theres ALOT of shit that goes in between that relation in the passing game. seriously another year he would look better, now the final 5 game stretch, thats bad decision making on Favre(playing with injured throwing arm to keep the streak alive), bad playcalling (when you have your conference leading rusher you force it down peoples face almost 40 times a game. high 20's for jones low teens for leon.) and the decline of the defense (i think mangini's scheme is only worth a shit when u have the right player at 9 out of 11 positions which no team really ever has. and jenkins IS our defense, the herniated disk didnt help) anyways ive said it before id love to have him back if he participates in the offseason, if not go Clemens, loved him coming out of college, the kid never got a fair shot to begin with and some people around here think 8 games is the tell all tale of a QB's career. either way im a fuckin jets fan so the show goes on.
Thanks Coach K. I can respect someone who says that his age and conditioning is a legitimate question. Heck I wonder it myself (and so does he I bet). But these loonies who feel the need to go back and rewrite two decades of history because they have this unquenchable thirst to say Favre has ALWAYS been a lazy & limited QB ... not so much. If Favre did anything wrong at GB in recnet years, he took it TOO seriously. It's well known he would go in to Lambeau on his off days to study tape, he was the only player there usually, just him and the coaches. And there were stories how he would even go home Sunday right after a game and start prepping for the next week, just him and his dog literally, his wife and family and friends were out at dinner together without him. When I read that I was worried he was gonna burn out, and IMO that's what happened, that's what lead to March 6 2008. But yeah, he never took football seriously enough. Whatever.
What are you his attorney? Relax. We posted some things we heard or thought we heard. I've definitely heard stories where he didn't know the play, so he literally drew it up in the dirt inside the huddle. No one's denying Favre's career or accomplishments, so give your cheesehead a rest. For how legendary Favre is, he played pretty un-legendary down the stretch, as evidenced by his near 5:1 INT to TD ratio. So how much of that falls on Schotty and how much of that falls on Favre?
so you never saw the clip of him asking his NFL teammates what the nickel and dime packages meant?? I did, it was done by NFL films and replayed on NFL Network many times... I'm not taking anything away from Favre, I'm stating what I've seen Favre say to a camera, which would make the evidence indisputable.
