http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/ (snip) NT Kris Jenkins isn't just a nose tackle anymore. He's moving around the line, making it harder for teams to double team him -- in theory. Ryan joked about Jenkins' weight, hinting that he's not close to his reporting weight. Ryan, smiling, said Jenkins will be 370 pounds by the time camp starts. (snip)
IMO this is the most significant news to come out of mini camp. Jet fans are finally going to get the scheme flexibility they've been crying for all these years. Just throw Gholston in and its a good 4-3 defense. Pace and BT can also play DE. These are flexible players, next year is going to be very exciting.
Throw Gholston in there too. I watched a lot of Baltimore's games on the NFL Network (replays) to see Ryan's defense in action... there's a LOT of plays where he'll have 4 or even 5 down linemen. Thomas, Pace, and Gholston (in college) have all been down linemen at some point in their career so they should be able to handle this.
1. What?s wrong with Jenkins "just" beeing a NT? Let him do what he does best, and make sure, he?s still fresh in the 4th. 2. Pace and BT were failures in the 43, they didn?t do anything before their Teams switched to the 34 and converted them to OLB.
I don't think there's anything wrong with playing Jenkins at end. In Baltimore, Haloti Ngata could play nose, buy plays most of the time at end while Kelly Gregg holds down the nose. If Rex thinks its a good idea, I'm not going to question it because the guy has proven himself. I don't, however, think that Jenkins moving around means we're going to be seeing a lot of 4-3. I just think he'll be playing some end in the 3-4. Who knows, I think Rex's defenses are successful because they are unpredictable and aggressive. We'll probably see 3, 4, & 5 man fronts with guys blitzing from everywhere. Can't wait to see the first game.
Ngata is a physical speicimin, you can?t compare him to anyone else in the league, and Gregg is a pretty good NT, but that?s the only position he can play on a 34 Line. If they would move Ngata to NT, they would have to bench Gregg. I?m just saying, we shouldn?t move Jenkins around that much, a DE simply has to run around much more than a NT, and that wears down a big guy like Jenkins pretty quickly. And 4 DL doesn?t make a Defense a 43, there are a lot, much more important differences.
In 4 man fronts, Coleman can play inside along with Jenkins and Gholston and Ellis can play the ends on the outside.
Jenkins ran out of gas pretty fast last season. If he is bulking up for this season it feels like a bad idea. I am not only worried it would make him disappear in the 4th quarter of games but also disappear in the 4th quarter of the season. I will trust Rex but I really dont feel like Jenkins needs to add weight.
When I read that blurb, I thought it meant Jenkins would be down to 370 from where he is now. I don't think he is trying to put on weight, I think he needs to lose weight to get to 370.
Ahh heck I was going by what NDmick was posting. WHen I click the link it goes to a story about the Jets and the Jews and I didn't bother scrolling.
What are you talking about? It says they are moving Jenkins around, that has nothing to do with the 4-3 or BT/Pace.
Not a suprise. Ngata lined up all over the place for the ravens and was even seen dropping off the line in a underneath zone at times. Ryan's defense dose as much as possible to confuse the offense. It should be fun to watch this year.
ugg please stop saying gholston will do anything. please please please! please stop thinking that the 3-4 de position is a rush end position. please please please.
I saw a couple lineups in Balt last year where they had Ngata crushing straight up on a guard, two LBs outside him and then two DEs from center to tackle, I don't know what the hell I'd call it, but you end up just caving in one side of the line and getting at least one LB in quick backside pursuit, either outside or inside Ngata. I guess it effectively was an offset 3-4(?!). I think the basic premise Ryan wants is to have a Ngata/Jenk crush one side of a line in, not specifically to make the play themselves, but to force the action where Baltimore wants it to go. I think Jenk has already displayed an ability to do that, so i don't think we're asking too much.
I like the idea of Jenkins moving around. We won't always be 3-4 in this scheme. Jenkins has showed he can play 3 technique in Carolina, he has God-given agility to go along with his strength and size that's why he is a major player in this league. I think moving Jenkins around the line in certain 4-3 and 3-4 combos will create hell for opposing olines. I'm liking what I'm hearing. I dunno if he's serious about the 370 pound comment though, that's too much friggen weight. I always expected this kind of flexibility from Mangini's schemes, but they never happened. We will see how this goes.
More versatile will only help us. Jenkins at times can move from NT to DE to work schemes better. I Think Jenkins will be more dominant this season then he was last season. Hope he stays healthy and drops the weight quickly.
