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  1. SigmaXJet

    SigmaXJet Active Member

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    anyone know the picks from Todd McShay's mock draft? im not an insider
     
  2. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    I'd rather have Max Jean Gilles than Davin Joseph.
     
  3. dabrowsk1

    dabrowsk1 Active Member

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    I wouldn't if the picks were Brick and Mangold, then picking Carpenter with the 35th. But a Guard? They need to draft someone to eventually replace Kendall, but not in the 1st round. Maybe a 3rd rounder that has upside who can learn behind Kendall for a few years.

    Do these people actually look at the rosters before they make these drafts?
     
  4. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    That's what I was thinking. If we're picking OL at 29 and Mangold is still on the board I can't believe we take someone else, especially after already having taken Ferguson. I know Ferguson is a Tackle and not a guard, my point is that I might be able to understand us taking a tackle over Mangold, but no way we take a guard over him. That pick just doesn't make sense.
     
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    MN_Jet_Fan New Member

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    I completely agree. There are serviceable OL later in the draft.
     
  6. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    There are servicable players at every position later in the draft.
     
  7. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    Well if we use all our day one picks on OL we will have a solid OL next year..
     
  8. Gunther

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    Maroney is not a pass catching HB
    Curtis Martin is.
    Would rather stick with Curtis and see if something else is available.
    If White is still around, I would rather have him over Maroney....
     
  9. parafly

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    Curtis is definitely not known for his pass catching skills. They are mediocre at best.

    Taking two OL with our first round picks would be such a waste. There is absolutely no need for that especially after the recent signings of Teague and Clement.
     
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    HAHAHA, almost as funny as fatcessa...
     
  11. dabrowsk1

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    Teague and Clement are not long term answers. Depth and experience are why they are on the team. If they are the starters come opening day, the Jets are seriously screwed.
     
  12. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    I would be skeptical if we took two olineman in round one, but I like both of those players alot.

    I will be so sick if we pass on Leinart.
     
  13. parafly

    parafly New Member

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    I never said they are long term answers, but their signings certainly make taking two OL with our two first round picks ridiculous. Teague and Clement have been NFL starters for many years, and I don't see why they can't be starters for us.
     
  14. Gunther

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    At least we know Curtis can catch
    Curtis does not get many touches yes, but it is a requirement from an NFL starting RB. That was not Maroney's strong suit, so with that in mind I would not draft him, but definitely not at 29
    Like I said if White is available, give him to us....
    Much more suited for the NFL than alot of these other guys
    And I pay no attention to the so-called experts
    White might get picked up by the Steelers
    Now that would be scary....
     
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    #28Martin Well-Known Member

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    If Lendale White is there at #29 and they pass, they are out of their minds.
     
  16. dabrowsk1

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    It would not be ridiculous in the least. The Oline is extremely thin. The reason the line sucked last year was not due to injuries. Injuries happen all the time to teams, especially along the lines. The problem was with the players the Jets had as backups. Gragg? Goodwin? Morley? Kendall as center? The Oline the way it is now, is one injury away from disaster just like last year. That, IMO, is why Teague and Clement were brought in, for BADLY needed depth.

    Exactly, Teague and Clement have been playing for years. Did you see Buffalo's line last year? That is what the past regime did for the past 5 years on the Oline, signing old players, cast-offs, and projects. The only time the line played well, was when all the starters were in and not injuried. The minute Goodwin or any back-ups stepped in, the level of play dropped significantly.

    There is a reason Belicheck signs lineman, O and D, high in the draft every year. He understands depth, especially along the lines because of injuries, is extremely important. And from what I see, Mangini is following the same philosophy. Pope, Clement, Teague, all were signed to put some talent in the depth chart along the lines.

    I don't know if they will take 2 Olinemen in the first round. But the idea is certainly not ridiculuos considering the state of things at the moment.
     
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    I understand what you are saying, but I honestly don't think our OL is in as bad a shape as you make it seem.

    Sure, depth is important and a very big factor, but do we really need to be carrying 12-15 OL on the roster? Our offseason signings have put us in a position to take the BPA, not to draft specifically to fill holes. The dropoff between the talent of OL in the draft is very insignificant compared to other skill positions.

    I am definitely in favor of picking up an OL early in the draft, but taking two with both of our first round picks is overkill. We already have some decent youth along the OL with Jones, Moore, Cavka, and Katnik. Add the experience and veteranship of Kendall, Teague, and Clement plus the drafting of a McNeill or Winston plus an additional 4th rounder, and we have ourselves a decent line with depth.
     
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    if we indeed took 2 lineman first round, brick and mangold, i would definitley be satisfied. remember in 04 when we were really good, it was cuz of the running game, and we totally abandoned that last year, because of injuries and other reasons unknown. if we get mangold to anchor the line, and brick to be in front of martin/another RB we draft, we can definitley put ourselves in position to win alot of ball games. that would certainly be a nice push onn the left side with brick and kendall.
     
  19. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    No thanks. Apparently this kid was so out of shape at the proday that he had titties...I'll pass...
     
  20. DGrab

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    Problem is they may not even be short term answers.
     

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