Sheppard versus Lowery?

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  1. abyzmul

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    Hmmmm.
     
  2. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I just threw up in my mouth.
     
  3. GSourJr

    GSourJr New Member

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    It's typical to believe that the new guy coming in is going to be better than you're own guy. I think Lowery would be a 7 to 8 INT guy if the Jets generated any pass rush.

    The competition will ensure we have a decent option opposite Revis.
     
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    I like it. Lowery showed me good instincts last year. I don't know how many passes defended he had but I'm sure it was a good amount. I blame his plateau last year on Mangini.
     
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    I hope you're right about Lowery, but my opinion of him isn't a very good one. The thought of him having a chance to start again is sickening.

    I don't see Lowery as a "decent" option at #2 CB. I see his ceiling as an average nickel back based on what I saw last year.
     
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  6. MBGreen

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    ummm what?

    Unless Sheppard gets hurt...he HAS to be the incumbent starter.
     
  7. rmagedon

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    3 scenarios.

    1) Lowery has gotten better than last year and has been giving Lito a run for his money to start opposite Revis.
    2) Lito isn't the same Pro-Bowl Lito we all thought we was getting.
    3) Or, we have 2 CB's flashing Pro-Bowl qualities and will fight it out in camp for a clear cut starter.

    I'm leaning towards #2.
     
  8. vilmatic

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    I thought Lowery was good until things went south for everyone. I have high hopes for him. Let;s not forget that Sheppard was extended, not given a new contract, so he's basically got a one year audition for not too much money.
     
  9. Mr Electric

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    Dwight Lowery was a mid round rookie in a defensive scheme run by one of the most stubborn coaches that I've ever seen. How much success did you expect from him as a rookie?

    DL is one of the best defensive backs that I've ever seen play...at the college level. At SJ State, he was all over the place.

    If this team gets a pass rush, he'll be a solid #2...guaranteed.
     
  10. WhiteShoeWillis

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    I didn't know what to expect from him as I never saw him in college. What I saw from him from week 1 was a guy getting burnt on a regular basis. I never understood why people liked him so much. He looked slow and lost to me.

    I hope you're right, but I just don't see it.
     
  11. GSourJr

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    I share Vilmatic's recollection. Lowery was around the ball, making plays, defensing passes during the first half of the season, when the Jets pass rush was setting a good pace in terms of QB sacks. After Jenkins tired, the pass rush disappeared and Lowery stopped making plays and started get torched.

    Lowery was a ballhawk in college and displayed those same instincts early on with the Jets. That kind of awareness is something you either have or don't, and I believe he does.

    Let's face it--whoever wins the job is going to get tested with Revis on the other side. If the Jets don't generate a rush, it's going to be a long year for that corner.

    The only thing that makes me not optimistic about Lowery is that I have my doubts about what kind of rush we will get. I have no doubt Ryan will manufacture more pressure...but I do feel like we didn't do enough to bolster the D-line...no new ends, and nobody to keep Jenkins fresh. Hope Murrell or Gholston emerges as a threat.
     
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    How much of Lowery's troubles do you all attribute to teams throwing away from Revis?
     
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    LOL.. Based on a lower round rookie getting thrown into the fire STARTING opposite a shut down corner...

    WOW.

    Lowery is a player - He works as hard as anyone and knows and admits himself he had a long way to go last year and still does - That's why he changed his Number... A new start. From last year, I think this guy will start this year at a whole new level.....

    If this guy was a top 1st round pick I could see the dissapointment - But, DAMN, I thought Lowery was a Great find and can play a number of roles - #2 CB, Nickel back or safety - Where you see a ceiling I see a WORLD of potential from a guy who's is a gym and film rat - not a guy who is going to stand by while fans put a ceiling over his head based on last year.
     
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    I'm going to take a "wait & see" approach and watch it play out in TC.

    IMO, Lowery would have to be pretty damn special to beat out Sheppard for that starting spot. If he can do it, GREAT!.....but I won't hold my breath over it.
     
  15. Mr Electric

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    Lowery's not slow...getting beat had a lot to do with his technique. He more than likely was lost, because he was thrown into the fire. He was a mid-round developmental defensive back when he was taken, he wasn't ready to start right away.

    He was picked on because he plays across from one of the game's best corners. If teams come after him in 2009, he'll make them pay. The kid's too much of a playmaker to fail.
     
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    FTR, I'm banking that Lowery got better during the OS.

    I liked him as a rookie. Sure he got burnt in a few plays, but for most of the time, he was a half-step away from knocking down a pass, or breaking up a play.

    He's a sure-fire tackler and he forces turnovers. With Rex Ryan's schemes in place, I can def see him making a huge impact as a CB opposite Revis. How do we know that's not the reason why they're competing for that spot now? Maybe he's looked as good as Lito because of the pressure Clemens/Sanchez have been receiving from our DL and LB's.
     
  17. JETfrmWOMBtoTOMB

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    I think this is only fair to a player who has been here and is not completely at fault for his rookie performance last season. The D definitely played badly as a whole towards the end when Brett was giving the ball back to the other team early and often. I see how Lowery can now be getting settled and it's definitely the right thing to do to let them fight it out. Nothing should be given to anyone here. There should be competition at every single position (except O-Line) with a new coach and a new system.
     
  18. WhiteShoeWillis

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    My opinion has absolutely nothing to do with where he was drafted. I wouldn't necessarily say I was disappointed either because I really had no expectations going in. Sure he was put in a difficult situation and he was a rookie, but I didn't really see anything special. A lot of people seem to see something though. I guess there's a good chance I'm wrong.

    He was benched from one of the worst secondaries in the league. This is the NFL, you're going to be put in difficult situations. Some guys excel, some guys don't. I think Lowery has a long way to go.
     
  19. kbgreen

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    I think DL showd us flashes last year that he will develop into a strong #2, He had lapses but what rookie doesn't. I would give him a C+ and see how he develops. If he pushes Lito to start great! Better for us! If Lito beats him out without a fight. He will have time to develop in practice.
     
  20. MSUJet85

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    Same thought
     

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