Clemens in 2006

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  1. ChuckkieB

    ChuckkieB Member

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    Does anyone think that Clemens will be starting by the end of the 2006 season? I do.
     
  2. jetsaholic1094

    jetsaholic1094 New Member

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    I sure hope not. If he does, that means things will be going VERY poorly for the team. He seems like a solid pick, and may be our QB for the future, but I'm not excited about rushing him into the fire. Let our O-Line develop under veteran QB leadership before handing the reigns off to a kid.
     
  3. SigmaXJet

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    i think theres a possibly because he might go into the season as the #2 QB if Chad isn't recovered
     
  4. hydro51

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    by the end of the season is when most coaches try to get there young qb playing time if there out the playoffs.
     
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  5. Imagesrdecieving

    Imagesrdecieving Well-Known Member

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    Do the right thing. Make him hold the clipboard for AT LEAST 1 season. No matter how bad things are going. Let him become acclimated with the play book without any pressure of adjusting to the speed of the NFL game.
     
  6. The Notorious J.E.T.S

    The Notorious J.E.T.S Well-Known Member

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    We're rebuilding anyway...so sure.

    He won't exactly be learning under a Brett Favre or Steve McNair type of QB, so letting him ride the bench is pointless. Unless the Jets want him to study Pennington's towel-waving skills.
     
  7. hydro51

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    SUMMARY

    Clemons is a very smart and fundamentally sound quarterback with a very quick and compact release and when he strides into his throws, he can make all the throws with very good zip. Clemons shows impressive ability to consistently step up and make big plays -- mostly with his arm, but occasionally with feet -- when it matters most; even vs. heavy pressure/blitzes. For Clemons to become the starter he is capable of being, he needs to stride into every throw he makes and do a better job of not forcing throws when he feels he has to make the big play. Overall, Clemons will probably get drafted much lower than anticipated, but he has the ability to become a very good NFL starter. Aside from Matt Leinart, Clemons might be the only other quarterback who is more ready mentally to step into the NFL and contribute early in his career.
    CRITICAL FACTORS
    Size Athletic Ability Strength Competes Play Speed
    5.5 6.5 6.0 6.5 6.5

    STRONG POINTS

    Clemons is a tough quarterback who has consistently shown a willingness to make good throws right before getting crushed by defenders. He has very quick and compact release and can get rid of the ball with zip in a flash. He has good bulk/strength despite lacking height and consistently has shown ability to keep feet and make accurate throws with defenders grabbing at him. He reads the defense very well, goes through progressions and consistently finds open receivers. He does not panic as pocket starts to collapse around him. If he gets pressured he has the quick feet and athletic ability to avoid sacks, buys second chance and can make plays with his arm or feet.

    WEAKNESSES

    Clemons is slightly shorter than ideal, but not so much that it greatly affects his play. Occasionally, he does not stride into throws and his passes lack the same zip when he just tries to make the arm throw. At times, he will force passes that he should not throw, which leads to some interceptions. He does not always wrap the ball up when scrambling and it leads to him fumbling more thanhe should. The biggest concern with Clemons is the health of his left ankle because he has not played in a game since the injury.

    POSITIONAL FACTORS
    Grade Category Comments/Description
    6.5 Technique Clemons has a very quick and compact delivery and can get rid of the ball in a flash.
    6.5 Arm Strength He has the arm to make all the throws with very good zip -- even the deep out is not problem at all.
    7.5 Convert Pct. In the games that were graded, Clemons stepped up and converted over 66 percent of important downs into first downs.
    6.0 2nd Lives He is not a D.J. Shockley or Vince Young, but he is a good athlete who consistently buys second chances.
    7.5 Accuracy Short in Pocket He was extremely accurate on short passes -- on passes less than 10 yards downfield, he was 86 percent.
    6.0 Accuracy Long in Pocket He is an accurate thrower on 10-20 yard passes with zip, but not as accurate on deep touch passes.
    5.5 Accuracy on the Move He can throw accurately on the move when he re-sets his feet, but is not always consistent.
    7.0 Big Plays He consistently makes big plays to gain big chunks down the field -- nearly four big plays a game.
    7.0 Under Pressure Consistently steps up and make the right reads vs. the blitz and throws the ball accurately under pressure.
    6.5 Leadership/Poise He is a definite leader of his team and you can see him verbally take charge on the sideline of games.
    6.5 Read Defenses He has consistently shown ability to read defenses well, but will at times force some passes he shouldn?t throw.
    6.5 Big Errors He generally does a good job of avoiding big errors, but will make one occasionally when he forces passes.

    ATHLETIC ABILITY Section Grade: 6.5

    Clemons is a very good athlete, which helps him to consistently deal with and avoid pressure and can make plays with his arm and legs. He has very quick feet, which helps him to set up and get rid of the ball quickly -- even with pressure in his face he is quick enough to get the pass off. His smooth athleticism helps him to stay over feet and in good position when flushed from the pocket to make good accurate throws on the move. He has consistently shown the ability to pull the ball down and make plays scrambling with the ball. He has enough speed to get the first down with his feet consistently. His flexibility lets him sit in the stance with good knee bend and he can stride into throw and lands on bent front leg very smoothly.
    Q.A.B. Quick Feet C.O.D. Flexibility Coordination
    6.5 6.5 6.5 6.5 6.5

    COMPETITIVENESS Section Grade: 6.5

    Clemons is a very tough quarterback who consistently has shown willingness to stand strong in the pocket and take the big hit in order to complete the pass. He has consistently shown the ability to play his best in the most important situations and in the games he was graded he converted 66 percent of key downs into first downs. He has been a very productive quarterback at Oregon despite taking a lot of hits and missing the second half of the 2005 season due to a broken left ankle. Clemons shows impressive ability to set up and get rid of the ball very fast vs. the pressure. In that area he looks a lot like Marc Bulger. However, at times Clemons does not always stride into his throws and when he doesn't, he struggles to get good enough zip on his throws. When you watch Clemons play, it is clear as day that he is a team player who never quits on a play. even when the pocket collapses, he is willing to stand strong and make good accurate throws with pressure in his face.
    Toughness Clutch Play Production Consistency Team Player Pride/Quit
    6.5 7.5 6.5 6.0 6.5 6.5

    MENTAL ALERTNESS Section Grade: 6.5

    Clemons is an extremely smart quarterback who has excellent throwing technique and reads the defense at the line of scrimmage very well. His instincts, quick feet and excellent delivery/release helps him to consistently read and react to the defense. He consistently identifies the blitz and throws accurately to receiver who goes to spot left open. His ability to maintain his concentration is the main reason he has been able to consistently produce at a very high level with his arm and his feet.
    Learn/Retain Instincts/Reactions Concentration
    7.0 6.5 6.5

    STRENGTH/EXPLOSION Section Grade: 6.0

    Clemons is slightly shorter than ideal at under 6-foot-2, but has a good thick build at over 220 pounds. While he has pretty much been a durable player at Oregon,it's always a big concern when a player gets injured as a senior and unableto work out at the Combine. So until his ankle is proven to be completely healthy there will remain a doubt about his NFL durability. He is an explosive quarterback who consistently has shown ability to burst out of pocket to make big plays running with the ball. And in his strides to throw aggressively, the ball explodes out of his hand and gets to the receiver in a flash. He has good playing strength and can pull free from defenders to avoid the sack and can make good throws with defenders hanging all over him.
    Body Type Durability Explosion Play Strength
    5.5 5.0 6.5 6.0
     
  8. IrishSteveZ

    IrishSteveZ New Member

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    I dont want to see Clemons on the field this season at all. He needs to sit on the bench and learn just like Penny did when he was first drafted.
     
  9. hydro51

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    Code:
    7.0 - 7.9	Pro Bowl Player ? A true difference maker	1st
    6.5 - 6.9	Highly productive starting player	1st
    6.4	Very good starting player	1st/2nd
    6.3	Very good starting player	2nd
    6.1 - 6.2	Good starting player	3rd
    6.0	Very productive backup now/will develop into starter	3rd
    5.9	Very good backup & very good special teams player	4th
    5.8	Quality backup & good special teams player	5th
    5.7	Backup player/special teams player & project players	6th
    5.6	Backup player/special teams player & project players	6th/7th
    5.5	Backup player/special teams player & project players	7th/Priority Free Agent
    5.0 - 5.4	Players with one or more limitations ? Backup/special teams type	Free Agent
    1.0 - 4.9	Not recommended as draftable or signable as a free agent	Not Recommended
     
  10. The Offseason

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    If he is starting, than something has gone awry. Most likely Pennington has gone down and Ramsey sucks badly. Otherwise Clemens needs bench time.
     
  11. NoodleArm

    NoodleArm Well-Known Member

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    Without seeing him in action, I'm not about to say whether he's going to start, as I don't know how he plays.

    On that topic, does anyone have any links to tape of this guy? The only thing that I could find was this on youtube...

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=yFGucgncvYo&search="kellen clemens"

    ...which is Merrill Hodge saying that Clemens is better than Leinhart and Young. I'd really like to see this kid in action, so if anyone has a link, it'd be appreciated.
     
  12. ChuckkieB

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    Well...that sounds about right for the 2006 Jets, doesn't it? I don't have any illusions that the Jets are a playoff team in 2006. Let the kid learn from the bench for at least half of the year, and then let him play and see what he can do. There will be no pressure on him when the team is not in the playoff hunt.
     
  13. allan1

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    I'd hoped they'd get Clemmens after Denver traded up for Cutler. Good thing we got two blue chipper offensive linemen to protect him.

    I think he's a good pick...maybe he'll be the next Ken O'Brien only with better mobility.

    have him hold the clipboard for most of the year, maybe get him some snaps later on.
     
  14. Keeprunning28

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    I hope Clemens is better than the last Oregon QB.....Joey Harrington
     
  15. WorkinStiff

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    Clemens is a QUICK study...Three off coordinaters in four years..This year, first year in a new system, completed 64% of his passes with a 19/4 int/td ratio....
     
  16. ChuckkieB

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    If the Jets don't have playoff hopes, I wouldn't make any sense to have Clemens sit on the bench all year. The best way to learn is to play, especially when expectations are low.
     
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    And a few hours ago we had no idea this guy would be with us. Now he's our starter? Damn.
     
  18. Big Poppa Naich

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    I think Clemens is more of a 2-3 year down the road type project. He might play a little, but hopefully just in garbage time.
     
  19. F Miami

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    Let him sit for a year or two and develop a bit. I think it's a decent pick.
     
  20. ChuckkieB

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    Given the state of our other 2 QB's and the expectations for the team this year, why is this so hard to imagine? The best way to learn is to play.
     

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