I just can't believe it. I mean I would have rather dealt up with #35 and #71 to get Bush instead of getting Clemens at #49 and the OSU linebacker at 76, and acquiring picks, but you know what? I'm a computer programmer, and I do not do this for a living. These guys know what they are doing for a living. This is NOT the old Jets, and it's a new regime. You guys know less about the draft picks then they do. I don't care who you are. If you knew more, you'd have a job. I'm sick of these "draft niks" thinking they know all... If you did, you'd have a scouting job.
Good post. Our FO has made some good decisions and are sticking to the plan. That being said, who is to say we didn't end up caving into the Saints demands for Reggie Bush and they just decided to draft him? we'll never know....
Our front office has said they are looking for different qualities in the players we draft then just being the best athlete. They are looking for smart, versatile hard working players who can play within a system. Our last two picks don't look great on paper, but I can assume that our front office found things with both of these players that they like.
Well said. You could have also added that too many people listen to Mel Kiper and who he likes and doesn't like. Who gives a shit if he thinks our last 2 picks won't be starters. He's a talking head, not our Defensive Coordinator.
Bill Polian, paraphrasing, "I don't care what Mel Kiper said. I think my mailman knows more about the draft than he does."
That has been said about a lot of players over the years. Anquan Boldin was a second round pick and offensive rookie of the year three years ago, everyone thought that he didn't have the speed to be a starting wideout. What about players like Terrell Davis? 7th round pick, I'm sure Mel was saying that he would never be a starter? The only thing that you can really listen to the "experts" about is the first round picks. Those are players that have been showcased a lot, and a ton of people have seen a lot of tape on. However, these mid or later round guys, most people have never seen these guys play. Think about it, this last round especially, almost every pick, Irvin and crew were automatically looking to Mel to get an opinion on the player!! When you get analysis from one guy and one guy only, you are forced to assume that assessment of the topic. Well that is the case for the draft, who to trust, the Jets with a huge scouting department, or Mel Kiper and Mel Kiper alone?
so take them in the 4th round so its only 1 round before anyone else even started thinking about them. Its called value, and neither of these guys represent it. I realize that they are looking to model their drafting after the patriots, but even the pats had big time athletes. Although its certainly no given, Darnell bing could be the next rodney harrison. not saying its gonna happen, but taking a chance on him is still better value than reaching for a possible ST's guy with a valuable pick
Wow. So we can't have an opinion? No one here is saying we know more, we're just not happy with some of the picks. As a fan that is ok isn't it? Because it's a new regime means they can't suck? Not that I think they do but right now, no one knows. As a JETS fan we can only hope El Duo TannGini plays their cards right and put our faith in them.
Nice thread. I'm not particularly happy with the 3rd round, but then again, I'm no NFL scout. I'm sure the Jets' FO know a whole HELLUVA lot more than we do about these matters, so before anyone goes off saying "wasted pick", keep in mind that Tannenbaum and Mangini are the professionals. Even though I don't particularly like the 3rd round picks, I can understand the reasoning behind it. Like Dreeseen83 said, they may not be stellar athletes, but they have good intangibles, are smart, versatile, and have high-motors. May not be sexy picks, but they may be able to contribute more than we may think. The main problem I had with the picks is that they seem to be 'reached', which of course doesn't mean much since we really have no idea where they would've been drafted otherwise. All we have is what 'mock drafts' tell us...and we all know how accurate they can be. Also, I didn't really think safety of all things was a concern, but whatever.
Well, can't Jetsin2004 have an opinion? His opinion is that the professionals know more than the average fan, which in my opinion is a pretty sensible thing to believe.
The more I see people on here bitch about the 3rd round, and the draft in general, the more I know that Tangini did a great job.
I don't trust Mel Kiper for shit. He's good for knowing 40 times, heights, weights, etc. But for knowing football and being able to project how good players will be? He doesn't know anything. As far as the last 2 picks today, they might have been reaches, but I'm not going to criticize them too much. I doubt most people complaining have ever really watched either of them play too much. I like what the Jets are doing and I trust them. A lot of times the bigger names in the mid rounds don't turn into anything, and there's a reason they fell. Look at Derrick Strait. He fell to the 3rd round, when some people thought he'd go in the first. He was supposed to be a huge steal, and he hasn't done anything yet.
sure it means you have no opinion at all, you just blindly accpet whoever we pick, interesting way to follow the draft.
He never said he wouldnt start though thats our second reach.U guys have been brainwahsed by Tangini.
Thank you. What's with all this FO deep throating? Because they work in the FO they have some special mystical insight which makes their picks brilliant? How'd that logic work with our last set of FO people?
To be fair, Bradway made some good picks in the later rounds concerning OLinemen and safeties. LaMont Jordan was also a good pick considering the round he was drafted in.
Of course he can and No one said he couldn't. OTOH, he made a thread basically telling us to STFU because we can't have an opinion since we know nothing. Don't get it twisted.
Yes well put. I definatley like this draft so far though. As you said, we have to trust the new regime as they've made some great moves previous to the draft as well. But hey... - The Offensive Line was MAJORLY upgraded with a great athletic LT and the best Center available. - We get a QB who was doing great before an ankle injury. Happy there. - I like Schlegal. A run stopper who can play special teams is good in my book. He's a TRUE 3-4 ILB too. - Eric Smith is confusing to me with Ko Simpson and Darnell Bing available. HOWEVER, I'm sure there's a logical explanation as to why the GM took this guy and I'm happy with him. - Plus we get a 2nd round choice next year. We're gonna be loving that next year. - Cheers to a Day 2 with a NT, WR and a pass rushing OLB. :beer:
