Speculation about Mawae

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  1. AtlantaJet

    AtlantaJet Well-Known Member

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    Judging by the draft I wonder if Mangini wants to continue with a zone run blocking scheme. If in fact he wants to keep Jones as a RT this may be further evidence. I wonder if Mawae may have been sabotaging the process of implementing Heimerdinger's scheme with his comments. I have no proof of this as I have seen nothing in print, but seeing as we did not draft any big guards or a big mauling RT, I think an athletic line that relies more on technique more than bulk may be the direction Mangini wants to go.
     
  2. Gfunk

    Gfunk New Member

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    problem with a line designed to zone block (undersized but athletic) is it's horrible when it comes to pass protection

    that's the last thing you need for Ramsey
     
  3. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Zone blocking works when you absolutely must have undersized lineman.

    That's true in Denver and a few other places due to altitude or excessive heat.

    Otherwise you're just going small and quick at positions where you really need to be big.

    The Jet's going to a zone blocking scheme was about as likely to be successful as the Yankees going to a base-stealing singles singles hitting team in 1981. Anybody remember that great free agent addition Dave Collins?
     
  4. AtlantaJet

    AtlantaJet Well-Known Member

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    Actually I think our line may be excellent at pass protection, but only capable of good run blocking with a zone blocking scheme.
     
  5. rajensen088

    rajensen088 Banned

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    You need to stop crapping all over every player who leaves the Jets. Mawae was cut because the pasty faced Michelin Man who was appointed HC by his best friend can't deal with strong personalities.
     
  6. Jet Blue

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    LOL... OR, he was OLD, coming off injury and was a bit too much of a lockerroom influence given his diminishing role on the field.

    The way Mangini said weeks ago that he had something in mind at center, I think he had Mangold on the radar for a long time...

    EXCELLENT manuever by the new staff.....

    Can't believe people are showing such hate for Mangini already after we had that Bradway / Herm mess for so long and sucked it up.
     
  7. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah...I agree...we should spend millions on a center that ripped his arm muscles apart and is 35 years old....with a new regime that is looking to get younger.

    Let me ask you a question...since you have NEVER showed any bias against the new regime:

    You are building a team over...would you have a player that is highly regarded as a potential solid center...from Ohio State...or would you spend some millions on a 35 year old center that was injured last year...not a stomach injury...perhaps a rectal injury...no...A MAJOR ARM INJURY.

    Who would you pick to start your team over...let me guess...Herm Edwards?
     
  8. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    I'm guessing if you pulled up tape of the games Mawae played in last year prior to his injury, without knowing his past, you would have cut him.

    Just because Herm Edwards believes that past performance is an indication of future returns doesn't make it so. Mawae was a great player who came into camp last year completely unprepared to play football. On top of that he is old by football standards and is much more likely to deteriorate than bounce back. He was part of the reason two QB were wiped out by game 3. He is old, injured and over paid and refused to renegotiate.

    Where you are right is Mangini doesn't have a proven track record so he can't take the chance on old, fat, over paid cancers impacting the attitude that needs to be developed after 5 years of Herms country club. Until Mangini establishes a winning reputation, he can't take a chance on guys like Mawae disrupting the team. In 3 or 4 years once the Jets establish a culture of hard nose, hard working self starters, you can start to bring in a couple of less disciplined players and hope they meld into the established culture. Until the current staff and players establish the new team culture, players like Mawae can’t be trusted to fit in. That’s also the reason Abe needed to be moved and Martin didn’t need to be moved even though he is pretty much done as a solid contributor on the field.

    Unfortunately the last regime ran the team into the ground with a relaxed attitude and the idea that by Preaching and being a nice guy you could turn bums into “Character” guys. The new regime has no such notion of their ability to turn lazy or clubhouse lawyers into the kind of team mates they are looking for. They apparently want to deal with football rather than inspiring guys to do the right thing.
     
  9. vilmatic

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    I agree (and I'm ignoring rajensen)
     
  10. #92ShaunIsHotter#92

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    For whatever reason, Mawae seemed to drop off big time from 2004 to 2005.

    In 2004 he was a madman with his run blocking. I would rewatch plays 3 or 4 times because I couldn't believe he was 20 yards down field, still ahead of martin, having already taken out an LB and a safety.

    Maybe he was dragged down by the other guys in his unit last year but I can't remember any plays were I saw him way down field and rewound my tape to see how he got there.
     
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    Hey rajensen088, are you wearing saggy diapers that leak this morning?
     
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    :beer:

    Man, that brought a tear to my eye. Bravo, Winston !!!!
     
  13. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    I just don't get it? We all know Mangini and Tanny have to establish themselves before they let talented ass wipes on the team. That's what their doing. It's logical and smart and makes perfect sense, why would you bitch about it? Parcells and BB can get away with bringing a TO or a Dillon onto their teams, they allready established the teams and their credability with the players, Manginin can't yet and he's smart enough to know it.
     
  14. ToddtoBarkum

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    Getting back to your initial question regarding zone blocking. I think we will stay with the zone blocking. Watching the draft (Kiper) and the draft shows on SNY (the guy from Yahoo) it was mentioned on more than one occassion that Mangold and D'Brick were both coming from offenses that implemented Zone Blocking schemes as their primary run packages.

    Mawae did not sabotoge the system. He is on the down side of his career and it was absoloutely the right move to get rid of him. Also he is known as the "clubhouse lawyer"....Not something that Mangini or any new coach and front office needs when they are trying to build their team...in their mold
     
  15. ThunderbirdJet

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    One reason I don't believe the Jets won't use zone blocking.... the offer they made to Runyan. They offered him a TON of money, but he simply didn't want to uproot his family. Runyan is NO zone blocker. So, unless there has been a change in philosphy since then (and where is the zone blocking guru on this CS?) I expect to see a man blocking scheme, until proven otherwise.
     
  16. jetophile

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    Mark Farner posts here?
     
  17. AtlantaJet

    AtlantaJet Well-Known Member

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    If true we may need to draft linemen in the first and second round next year too.
     

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