Justin McCareins (2nd Ranked WR!!!!)

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  1. NYJets28

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    Only in the worst dropped ball % in the league for 2005!!! Check out the article and I apologize if this has been posted already as I know how fired up people get for new (repeat) threads.
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    One of the things I most enjoy in researching football scientifically is debunking traditional football wisdom. How many times have you seen a sure-handed receiver drop a pass, only to have the announcer say something like, "That almost never happens. He'll catch that pass 99 times out of 100."

    I always wondered if that was true. Do the best receivers catch 99 percent of the passes thrown their way?

    As a result, I tracked the number of drops every qualifying receiver had during the 2005 season (minimum of 40 catches to qualify). I also divided the number of drops by the number of catchable passes to come up with a dropped pass percentage.

    Here are the top 20 receivers in dropped pass percentage from the 2005 season:

    Dropped Passes
    Player Team Dropped passes Dropped pass %
    Houshmandzadeh Cincinnati 3 2.6%
    Marvin Harrison Indianapolis 4 3.2%
    Bobby Engram Seattle 4 4.3%
    Jason Witten Dallas 4 4.5%
    Steve Smith Carolina 7 4.7%
    Scottie Vines Detroit 3 4.8%
    Tony Gonzalez Kanas City 6 4.9%
    Eric Parker San Diego 4 4.9%
    K. Johnson Dallas 6 5.1%
    Joe Jurevicius Seattle 4 5.1%
    Eric Moulds Buffalo 7 5.5%
    Keenan McCardell San Diego 6 5.6%
    Reggie Wayne Indianapolis 7 5.7%
    Lee Evans Buffalo 5 5.9%
    Jabar Gaffney Houston 5 6.3%
    Larry Fitzgerald Arizona 10 6.4%
    Chris Cooley Washington 6 6.5%
    Marcus Pollard Detroit 5 6.7%
    Deion Branch New England 8 6.7%
    Jermaine Wiggins Minnesota 6 6.7%


    If last season is any indication, the best receivers don't drop only one pass for every 99 they catch. The best ratio is more like one drop for every 40 catches.

    It was no surprise to see Marvin Harrison near the top of this list, but I was somewhat surprised to see T.J. Houshmandzadeh rank No. 1 in this category. Houshmandzadeh is known as a very good possession receiver, but this chart shows he may be one of the best.

    Steve Smith's reputation as a home run threat is well earned, but having dropped only seven passes in 150 catchable attempts shows his hands are certainly underrated.

    I also found it interesting to see two Seattle receivers -- Joe Jurevicius and Bobby Engram -- in the top 20. Having two of the most sure-handed receivers in the NFL certainly was a big reason Seattle was finally able to become a championship contender in 2005.

    Let's also examine how the worst receivers in the league did (also a minimum of 40 catches to qualify).

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    Player Team Dropped passes Dropped pass %
    Ernest Wilford Jacksonville 13 19.1%
    Justin McCareins NY Jets 16 16.7%
    Reggie Brown Philadelphia 13 16.3%
    Roy Williams Detroit 13 14.6%
    Brian Finneran Atlanta 11 14.3%
    Erron Kinney Tennessee 10 14.1%
    Antonio Bryant Cleveland 16 13.9%
    M. Muhammad Chicago 18 13.6%
    Greg Lewis Philadelphia 13 12.9%
    Eddie Kennison Kansas City 14 12.8%
    Randy McMichael Miami 12 12.0%
    L.J. Smith Philadelphia 12 11.8%
    Alge Crumpler Atlanta 13 11.5%
    Mark Clayton Baltimore 9 11.3%
    Donte' Stallworth New Orleans 14 11.2%
    Chris Chambers Miami 17 11.0%
    Todd Heap Baltimore 11 10.4%
    Terrell Owens Philadelphia 9 10.2%
    Plaxico Burress NY Giants 17 10.2%
    Ben Troupe Tennessee 8 10.1%


    This chart shows that Ernest Wilford dropped nearly one out of every five passes thrown to him last year. Despite this abysmal drop percentage, Wilford still ranked fourth in the league in total yards per catch attempt. Most of Wilford's drops came on accurate passes, so he has a ton of upside for the upcoming season.

    Two highly touted rookie receivers -- Reggie Brown and Mark Clayton -- also found their way on this list. While their drop percentages were fairly close, Clayton was actually much more sure-handed when considering the accuracy of the passes each receiver dropped.

    The accuracy of a pass is a subjective measurement, but I use a set of rules to hopefully limit its subjective nature. The rule of thumb I use to grade the accuracy of a pass is whether the receiver is forced to reach behind or dive to make the catch.

    I segment dropped passes into three categories. The first is an accurate dropped pass. The blame for dropping an accurate pass falls completely on the wide receiver. The second is an inaccurate dropped pass. These are passes that are thrown outside of the receiver's catching frame, but are still catchable. A receiver may not catch all of these passes but the best ones still catch most of them.

    The third type of dropped pass is what I call stripped/drop passes. These are passes a receiver gets his hands on, but has the ball stripped away by the defender for an incompletion. Most scoring systems list these as passes defensed. However, since the receiver got his hands on the ball and had it stripped away, I figure it should be segmented away from the standard pass defensed (i.e., when a DB knocks the pass down before it gets to the receiver).

    So how did Clayton and Brown fare in these categories? Four of Clayton's nine total drops came on accurate passes, while only three came on inaccurate passes and two on stripped passes. Meanwhile, nine of Brown's 13 drops came on accurate passes, while only four were due to inaccurate passes and none were due to stripped passes. The nine accurate pass drops tied Brown for fifth-worst in the league in that category last year.

    Having a pair of good pass-catching hands is a natural talent, but as Raymond Berry proved years ago, it is also something that can be improved upon with practice. If these numbers are any indication, Reggie Brown has the most room for improvement of any second-year wide receiver.

    KC Joyner, aka The Football Scientist, is a regular contributor to ESPN Insider. His latest book, Scientific Football 2006, is now available for preorder at his Web site, http://thefootballscientist.com.
     
  2. Coach K

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    we dont need science to tell us how bad mccareins was last yr. but thanks for making it official

    lol:rofl:
     
  3. thegoldengod

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    interesting read.....actually surprised to see mccareins had the qualifying 40 catches to make the list
     
  4. twinjetfan

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    There are four eagles on that list. :lol:
     
  5. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    now is that the recievers fault or McNabbs?
     
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    I was high on McCareins last year at TC. He had a good Camp. Just goes to show you that Camp doesn't matter much, it's what happens when you've got real defenders on your @ss.

    JMac just doesn't extend himself to make the difficult catches. I wonder how long it's going to take Mangini to blow him out.
     
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    Great post, you obviously put a lot of effort into it. What this doesn't show are the situations where JMAC didn't even have a chance to drop the ball, because he wasn't even looking for it.

    I hope he's cut in camp!
     
  8. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    Mangini will not cut McCareins.
     
  9. Section 227. Row 5

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    I beg to differ. I think Tannenbaum and Mangini both already know what they've got here. He'll look great again in TC and fall on his face again during the season. Don't think Tannenbaum isn't already telling Mangini that. I say we'll wind up picking up somebody else and as soon as that happens, he's history.
     
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    Mangini will let McCareins prove himself now that he is healthy, I'm sure.
     
  11. BonScott

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    can you post one for te?
     
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    Does drops have something to do with the QB? The Jets have gone through 4 different QB in the past two years.
     
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    Interesting reading and discussion. It's also worth remembering that the quality of the QB position has something to do with the drops. Repetition and consistency help any receiver.

    McCareins had a bad year last year. But it would be foolish for a new coach to let people go based on what happened in the final year of a failing regime.

    I am not a Herm basher, but he quit on the Jets last year. It showed in how the players performed.
     
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    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    NYJets28 didn't do the research. Check the very bottom of his post.

    You have to go here for that- KC Joyner, aka The Football Scientist, is a regular contributor to ESPN Insider. His latest book, Scientific Football 2006, is now available for preorder at his Web site, http://thefootballscientist.com.

    Word to the wise- I heard last year's book was littered with mistakes. Plus it wasn't a real book. It was a whole bunch of looseleaf pages stapled together.
     
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    nice post dude i was suprised to see TO on the worst list... is that true to his ability and was he better the year before in this?
     
  16. Martin&theJETS

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    great thread.
     
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    In McCareins defense, because of the QB situation, he probably got hit the most as he was trying to catch the ball because throws were late and not a lot of juice on it
     
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    Not really a McCareins fan but I have to agree with your comment....I know this 1st hand playing with some horrible QB's in my day
     
  19. Section 227. Row 5

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    I'll buy into that and second it also. Even Coles struggled more last year as a result of the throws. One thing about Testaverde... he either delivered it to you or he delivered it to the enemy. Run the route and turn around and if it's there it's at least got some heat on it so you don't get hammered.

    With Chad... and even Bollinger, you've got a softer ball. More accurate, yes, but get ready to take the hit because of the accuracy and timing. I'm not sure about Ramsey, but if we start Pennington again (it's looking like the likely scenario again, no?), then be prepared for your receivers to take a hell of a beating again, all of them. Look at Chrebet's final completion.

    I just hope Clemens is the answer to our need for a QB who can surface and put some zip on the God-damned ball.
     
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    good post .... nice read
     

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