DUIs are a dime a dozen and the Inez Sainz what blown way out of proprotoin she even said so herself. Hold outs are business as usual. I'd hardly call this a troubled team. On the field discipline is a different story and that starts with Rex. If I were Rex I'd have killed him for the taunting penalty. Beside they corrected most of the issues from week 1 to week 2. What as so undiciplined about week 2?
At the time the Jets picked up LT, I had a very ho-hum reaction. I really didn't think he would come close to offsetting the loss of TJ. But so far I have to admit LT is growing on me big time. Not just his production but also the way he conducts himself. He seems to add a very positive veteran presence which is what we lost when they let go of TJ. Plus, LT's receiving production helps make up for the loss of Leon Washington as well.
At some point everyone will trust that when the Jets target someone in free agency they are making the right move. So far it looks like they went 4-4 on the guys we have seen play. Will be 5-5 when Holmes comes back.
So far this year TJ 33 carries 127 yards 3.7 average 1 catch for 5 yards LT 22 Carries 138 yards 6.3 Average 6 catches 42 yards and LT is a year younger.
SD's run blocking has fallen off over the last few years. If Thomas Jones could rack up yardage behind our line LT can. plain and simple. just not at the workhorse rate he was used to in his prime. if Greene can stop fumbling and the team takes Sanchez training wheels off he'll be averaging 5 ypc all yr. him being a target out of the backfield has stopped alot of 8 in the box action. also his vision makes spreading the field and 1 on 1 OL schemes less of a gamble.
Could you imagine what LT would have done in his prime with the OL we have had the last 2-3 years? Good god, he wouldnt have just broken records, he would have shattered them...
I'm becoming more and more of a fan of LaDanian with everyday. I remember before the season started, there was an article in one of the Sunday editions of the Daily News, covering his new found drive to succeed because of the doubters, and it told the story of his wife and his' first incident with their child (I believe a miscarriage). Emotional story from a man full of emotion. Tomlinson, :beer: .
They are symptoms of a serious issue with this team. You will see as the season goes on, I'm afraid. I really like Rex as a coach, too, but I really think this issue is gonna end up biting him in the ass. Nobody hopes I'm wrong more than me, believe me. I just have a bad feeling about it. I've seen too much as a long time Jets fan not to recognize a problem when I see it. Now, that doesn't mean they won't win games. I still think they'll win the AFCE this year, and quite handily. I think they'll do well in the playoffs, too. I'm just concerned with the discipline on this team. It's something that bears watching.
The lack of discipline issue is being overblown by the media... they want to hype it up so they can sell the bad guy stories and stoke the drama. It's the way they are. So far we have one DUI and a bunch of jocks acting like jocks around a woman dressed like street whore. You get a couple of issues like this and the org and coaching staff is going to clamp down on the players and doing what needs to be done. I believe the Jets will do that. I think Rex is probably one of those pretty easy going coaches until people start mucking up a good thing. Then I take him for a guy that will start putting foot to asses. Already from one game to the next we have had a huge turnaround. I don't feel any need to be worrying about things yet.
I know what you're saying. A part of me feels a little bit concerned too, but the more I think about it, the more I feel the media is just spitting venom at this team. I mean look at ESPN NY, its filled with negativity about every little issue that comes up. Like, why aren't the Dolphins being criticized for playing TWO starters with pending DUIs? Its all hypocrisy to me. I think that this kind of talk that were going to collapse because of lack of discipline is unfounded right now, but boy would the sportswriters be cashing in if it did happen:breakdance:
He May End Up Starting The way he's been playing, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts before the midway point of the season. He's been noticeably quicker and has been playing with a hell of a lot more energy than Shonn (every time I spell that name I love it). LT will have a break out game this week.
I think that off the field stuff is not 100% controllable. Parcells runs one of them most disciplined teams you can find and he still had his share of off the field issues with LT and the like. I think Rex has a fairly disciplined squad on the field. we are hardly the most penalized team. We had a bad first game. I am a big believer in discipline too so i understand you point. Rex has a really loosy goosy attitude which is often associated with lack of discipline. The book is not complete on this but I understand the concern, it is not out of the realm. The thing I like about rex i that he addresses issues. He addressed the sloppy play with push ups and we were cleaner in week 2. He did not like what Shotty did in week one and (if the reports are true about the shoving match) he also handled that. They were pretty good about penalties last year, so I think we need to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point.
I don't care if the Jets turn into the Bungles when it comes to off the field issues. As long as all the players are on the field ready to play every week. I've said it before and I'll say it again, The Jets organization and the players are not role models for me or my children.
You mean other than Edwards taunting penalty, him taunting again on the 2 pt conversion, and then him getting a DWI? Nothing. Seriously, though, everyone sees it, so it isn't just me. And I don't think it will stop them from winning a lot of games this year. Like I said, it's just a concern I have. If you don't share that concern, that's fine.
I never said they should be. I don't think the team should do shit to Braylon. Making him sit for the first half is stupid, IMO. The Bengals off the field issues were a huge reason they've underachieved the last 5 years, with the talent on that team. That and shoddy coaching. You don't want a team like the Bengals, or you will have a team like the Bengals. Think about it.
Well, no one on our team has killed, raped, or stabbed/shot (that I know of) anyone, so we're definitely not in the bottom 5 teams in the league. I figured LT would be solid. However, let's not bash TJ like some said, he did his part and took a beating on the field for it. He was a great player who was a great pickup (a swap of 2nd round picks) for the Jets. Also, again let's hold of crowning LT. His play has been around what I expected, but let's see how long it lasts. Not saying he'll drop off completely but let's not over hype him either.
The whole team improved it's behavior from one week to week two, sans ONE player. So one undisciplined player means the whole team is undisciplined? And the 2-pt conversion was not taunting. He caught the ball, looked at the guy and then dropped the ball. He didn't throw it at him, he dropped it at his own side ... Where does everyone see a penalty? People aren't flagged for a lot more every week