Hue Jackson- on Wr Jacoby Ford

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  1. JohnnyThaJet

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    I can say he did hold back the Jets offense a bit in his first season here but he was a ROOKIE, I dont care what you say but most Qb's need about 3-4 years to reach some of their potential. His second year he was getting use to a new WR on the team and a different style of play with LT at RB, and we didnt suck on offense last year at all. We were much much more improved and will be even better next season.

    I dont count a screen pass that goes 40 yards because a WR is faster then a #2 or #3 Corner a "deep play pass". Does it go for alot of yards? yes but it certainly isnt a deep ball to go into OT or tie a game thrown for 40 yards before the WR catches it like Mark has shown he can make. Campbell is accurate but just cannot make the deep throw, he benefits from fast WRs and a good run game to open up the play action.

    I dont think he is a bad player by any stretch but being better than Sanchez he is not and will not be. Id love to see how Campell would even survive in a game that means something.
     
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    See JTJ this is the fake retarded stuff that is simply designed to cause trouble. Just like CookiePuss and his "Purple Drank" would be as good as Peyton. It was the same thing every year till this fraud left when his crap fest team languished or they got obliterated 38-0 by the Jets.

    Yeah let him say Mark Sanchez isn't as good as Campbell. Let him explain which of the 32 GM's in the league would trade JC for MS straight up? That should be his next troll thread.................
     
  3. JohnnyThaJet

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    Please RaiderJoe make that happen^ " J Campell is Manningesque while Sanchez if Dilferesque"

    Seriously this is hardcore Raider trolling the amount of bias and blindness is fucking absurd. Especially say a #7 pick being a 4th or 5th WR is such a "threat".

    Joe are you really a Denver fan in disguise?
     
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    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    raiderjeaux what color is the sky in your world... you are great fun.
     
  5. Miamipuck

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    I worded my post wrong. You obviously knew what I meant....... There is not one GM in the entire NFL that would trade Mark Sanchez straight up for Jason Campbell, if Sanchez was their QB.....
     
  6. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    and anyone can find A stat to call the guy better.. he is better on the second pass of the 2nd half when throwing to his slot receiver. BOOYAHHHHHH... he is OBVIOUSLY the bestest.

    when taken properly jeaux is humorous, to try and have a sensible conversation however is impossible.
     
  7. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    Raiders offense went from one of the worse 30- 32 to one of the top 10 offense . (it beat the jets in every offense catergory despite not having a Pass protection oline yet as good as the Jets. (Thats without their best Wr being out for most of the year(played in one game) and a very inexperience Wr corp )

    Watch the jacoby Ford ot deep pass against the Chiefs . J Campbell put that right on the numbers. Again Raiders Oline isn't great yet in pass protection. So when a team stopping their run, your not going to have the time to throw those deep patterns.

    Its as simple as this. Raiders improve their pass protection both Jason campbell and the Raiders wr will put up big numbers. Even DHb will benefit as Raiders can't take advantage of his speed. (the time not there yet to let those plays develope)

    Only time will tell if Sanchez ever becomes that franchise Qb but he hasn't done squat to tell you hes on his way to becoming that Qb.

    BTW Go check how many passes mark sanchez threw to Santonio Holmes where he outraced the secondary.(those weren't forty yard boms either)
     
  8. Rockefella

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    I'm surprised the Raiders even draft football players anymore. They should just start scouting in Jamaica and Kenya where the elite runners are. I also learned that consecutive championship games in his first two seasons is equal to: hasn't done squat.
     
  9. Raiderjoe

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    Do you want me to bring up the tape of Santonio Holmes making a ordinary throw and making something special out of it. (thats not Sanchez but a great indivial play on Santonio Holmes) Your a big Jet fan tell me how many big plays were this variety.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6rni8XIFwQ
     
  10. Miamipuck

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    Make no mistake jeaux is a complete troll, I know this. Lol a rational discussion is the last thing I would have with him. As you can see he never replies to me. I am just trying to be troll kryptonite sort of speak.

    He was humorous for a little while. Then not so much. Even with this shitty of shitty offseason's, fake trolling TGG still sucks balls.
     
  11. Raiderjoe

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    So Let me get this straight a 6'2 210 pound Wr with sub 4.3 speed. Can't be a big weapon (have a role in the offense) despite not being one of there top Wr's. Your using him in certain situations.(hue Jackson not Lil Marty) Again If you watched the Raiders the one thing they have is blazing speed everywhere. Reason why Reverses and fake reserves have gone for big plays.

    Again as I correctly alluded to DHB is a very very good run blocker. Raiders wildcat . D Mcfadden QB with Backfield of M Bush and Marcel Reece. With Dhb and Jacoby ford at WR.

    Learn to read. I repeatly said neither Qb was a franchise Qb(well both haven't proved otherwise yet) So whose spinning it or trying to make more out of the situation.

    BTW Lets use an example You have a 6'2 210 wr with sub 4.3 speed and he get put on your fourth Cb. Now tell me in that scenario who chances you like better.(nah there no role for a player like that) Comeon that is as silly as MR Electric not knowing who Marcel Reece was. (inexcusable)
     
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  12. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    Only Qb I know who was mostly responsible for the team sucess in getting them to a superbowl was john Elway. He single handly took that team on his back. Mark Sanchez - lmao Please. The Jets made two AFC Championship despite having mark Sanchez(Anchor holding back the offense).

    Jet would have had a home playoff game if they had even an average Qb behind center. (fact)
     
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    how do you respond to sanchez pulling wins out of his ass with 2 minutes left? or his outstanding playoff statistics for a 2nd year qb?
     
  14. Raiderjoe

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    Again what was mark sanchez a one man show on offense. He came into a situation that alot of young Qbs aren't lucky enough to have. Everything around him was set up for him to be sucessful. YEt his numbers his first two years are less than acceptable (under ideal situation) . There is no reason why Jets didn't have a home playoff game.

    Lets forget the numbers in put up in the season (very dissapointing) and just concentrate on the playoffs. Right.

    Jmo Big reason for his sucess in the playoff had nothing to do with Sanchez. The other team were more concern with stopping the jets running game and forcing Sanchez to beat them. Tell me what great Defense they played in playoffs. Colts? Jets took there great pass rushers out of the game. Any Pro Qb going to beat a colt defense with there two pass rushers neutralized. The Patriot had a great defense(where did they finish getting to the QB)_? The steelers defense - one of the best stopping the run but can be thrown on- Jets have the tackles to protect the QB.

    Mark sanchez hasn't proven anything yet. Jet fans can make all the excuses for him but after a while the numbers speak for themselve- he has a long long long way to go before anyone thinks hes a franchise Qb.
     
  15. MBGreen

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    stop trolling.

    final warning.
     
  16. JohnnyThaJet

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    And Jason Campbell and Darius Heyward Bey are fucking super bowl winning pro bowlers that have just proven so much. This doesnt mean shit your arguments are extremely flawed and your trolling is simply insanity. Mark has played for 2 SEASONS. I forgot about all those superbowl winning pro bowl rookies every team has had before out of a QB.
     
  17. JfaulkNYJ

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    you watch the jets last year? sanchez looked like a magician escaping sacks left, and right extending plays.

    i also assume you forget this is a team game. what would peyton manning look like with the Ram's wr corps? ...i highly believe peyton wouldnt have the outstanding stats he does now with that wr corp.

    edit: also im going to assume you are one of the people in the past who said "Braylon Edwards sucks, who the fuck is Jericho Cotchery, DBUST," etc etc

    so now the Jets have great to elite talent around Sanchez. lol.
     
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  18. Raiderjoe

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    Trolling in a thread i started. Don't tell the truth because we can't handle it as jet fan. LMaO gET OVER YOURSELF YOUR NOT THAT IMPORTANT.
     
  19. MBGreen

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    I'm not interested in your opinion on the matter....I told you to stop trolling.

    Your posts serve no purpose other than to antagonize other posters.
     

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