I have come to the conclusion that while Rex gives a very entertaining presser, aside from the occasional dig at an opposing team, you can expect as much accurate info about team operations as you could have from Mangini. Rex has his media mask on. But... I find the pressers from his coordinators to be endlessly fascinating. Especially Westhoff. You could write a book from Westy's press conference material. He should have been a head coach.
What you can confirm is this. We’re getting ready to play the 15th game of the season and the team is showing very little improvement. The same guys are making the same recurring mistakes. The same guys have been underperforming for most of the season. I guess we can just hang this up to the fact that our depth that bad (its actually horrible) that we just have to leave them in there because option # 2 is so bad, we just cant even consider it. If Rex is actually chewing out his players & coaching staff in private as some of you are willing to bet, then things are even worse than what I believe them to be. That would mean you are right --- he is chewing out the players and coaching staff, and telling them they play like shit. And things are NOT getting better. Nor is fear being dispensed. Captain Holmes and his jackass stunt in the end zone is a perfect example of this.
You're assuming that chewing out a player actually results in something. You think Coughlin is a slacker in that department? Look how his players respond...
What about the players? When are they going to get pissed and start showing emotion? You never see it cuz they are a bunch of don't give a shit assholes that only look forward to cashing that undeserved paycheck. I would rather this team be full of no names that have heart and win when it matters.
What am I missing here? The Giants suck. I was talking about the Jets. You want to hold up another team as a shining example? Lets start w/the PATS.
I know what you mean but sadly the guys with the talent tend to be the assholes (in all walks of life). there are a tiny number of exceptions I admit but they are few and far between. you look at soccer and every team that wins anything is full of "pay me now" primadonnas and the teams full of effort players are the ones hovering around mid-table.
We can talk all day about why the FO let a number of veteran leaders go this past off season, and I am hardly of the view that vets should be kept until they can't walk anymore. You can justify this or that move, and I would have made some of them myself. But it also should be clear that the net effect is that there has been a loss of something in the intangibles department. A guy like Sean Ellis, who showed up and worked hard his entire time with the team, a blue collar guy despite being a first round pick, just got it done without flash and hype, and led by example. There were others. They aren't there now.
the only reason the pats are anything is because they fluked into picking up an elite HOF QB in the 6th round. if it wasnt for Brady then "the patriot way", Belli, all the rest of it wouldnt be enough to make them anything more than a so-so team. the patriots are what they are because of one exceptional player.
this is just outright f'ing stupid and simply dipshit insecurity, and then topped off with the kind of dumb fuckery Mangini "heart" nonsense to boot. because they lost and you are hurt they must not care. grow up.
Its not fair to compare Tom to Rex. It took Tom 12 years to win a SB. Rex has fared far better in 2 years than Tom has as a coach. Why is a ring a prerequisite for owning a certain disciplinary style?
how dare he remain confident. Seriously, this blind Rex Ryan hate is getting OLD. Dude has said little this year and people are still bitching and assuming this is the same Rex from 2009 when it comes to talking. The guy has pretty much been the quietest ever and people are still with this "oh, I hate Rex Ryan. Why doesnt he just shut up and coach. F*** that highly confident man."
That's slicing it pretty thin, though. Coughlin assembled a team from scratch and took an expansion team to the AFC Championship in his second year as an NFL head coach, and again a couple years later.
Indeed Coughlin did that. And Rex said today he considers Tom one of the best coaches ever. But it should be noted that Coughlin's hard a$$ style wore thin in Jacksonville which got him booted from there and he was being run out of new York as well right before the playoff and Super Bowl run. My final thought on the topic is Rex is Rex. Let him coach how he sees fit. He will either succeed or fail doing it his way. Ripping players publically may make fans feel better after a bad loss, but it won't have any impact on whether Rex will ultimately be a Super Bowl winning head coach.
whatever I don't know what Rex says to his players behind closed doors..doesn't matter to me.........all I know is this team pays it's best ball when he mouths off during the week. In my opinion he's been way to polite and quiet this year (probably becasue so many people bitch and moan about how much he talks..really? does he really talk that much? or does the media just blow everything he says out of proportion?) I'm glad he went bak to his old self already firing shots at the Giants.......hopefully he's sick of being the bullshit politically correct person that he's not and what most people loved about him to begin with. If he's going to continue to be accused of talking too much...then he damn well ought to. The team has responded to it in the past, and hopefully will again.
Thats true, should've looked further into his beginning years; just looked at when he won a SB. It bothers me that someone would state 'because Coughlin won a SB, what he does is right, and since Rex doesn't have a ring, what he does is wrong' like there isn't a middle ground where both forms are acceptable.
Of Ellis, Richardson, and Woody, the only one to land an NFL job was Ellis and he has done nothing for the Pats defense. The Bigger issue stems from the replacements. We have Conner on the roster already, drafted Mo Wilk, and Had Hunter around. conner and Wilkerson have panned out, both playing well. Hunter played very well the last 4 gamse of last year but has been abused often this season. His short display last seons lead the front office to belive him to be the answer and he clearly is not. We still have leaders like LT, Scott, and Leonhard around. Plax should be a guiding light to all of these young men on the danger of being self abosrbed and the long road to redemption afterwords. The problem lies they choose to listen.
It's not rocket science. You're bitching about Rex Ryan not chewing out his players. If he is or not, my point is who gives a fuck because if you look at a guy like Coughlin who goes apeshit on his players all the time, the result for him is a team of zombies who don't show up and won't play for him. But seriously, you don't think Rex is pulling Santonio aside after that game and giving him an earful? But you want him embarrassed too, right? Gotta humiliate the guy so you can feel better after watching that garbage time game
My point was not that all those players should still be on the team. It was instead that the Jets lost intangibles when they left, those being leadership qualities that some current members have, but perhaps not enough.
Its not, that wasnt the argument. It was simply the fact that Coughlin has a ring gives him a cetain "fuck you" power over Rex. Thats just the way it is
