Ha, nothing special. I'm just a structural engineer. However, my boss is also a huge football fan and one of our clients is some big shot in DE with something or other. They got to talking about football and the guy said that he goes almost every Friday to watch the taping. He invited him along for a taping not too long ago. Sounded like a pretty awesome experience.
And there are people on here that say Sanchez is the 2nd coming of Brees as well. Look how well that's turned out so far. In my opinion, no one analyzes a QB better than Jaws. You guys may disagree and you're entitled to your opinion. But when Jaws says a QB sucks, 10 times out of 10 I'm gonna believe him because he's much more knowledgeable than myself.
You know you can root for a team and still be critical right? If Sanchez turns into a legitimate QB, I'll be the first to admit it. Right now? He's mediocre. I don't expect that to change personally. But that doesn't mean I don't root for him on Sundays. I'd love for him to succeed. However, some Jets fans are just better than others at calling a spade a spade.
If Peyton were to ever approach the Jets and say he would take less because he wants to win, I think the Jets dont have a choice but to get him. Peyton carried the Colts to elite status for the decade. If he came to the Jets, for the first time in his career he wouldnt have to carry the team. If we have a top 5 defense, and presumably a top 5-10 offense with Manning, we would have a great shot to win it all.
And it resulted in a number of QB's taking a step back or not progressing over 2010. Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman, Colt McCoy, Matt Cassell, Kyle Orton, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Joe Flacco, Michael Vick, Jay Cutler and Philip Rivers all had similar or worse, mostly worse, seasons in 2011 than they had in 2010. Sanchez actually improved his numbers more than anybody on the list above. The idea that 2011 was some kind of paradise for the average QB is just flat out false. 2011 was great for about a half dozen QB's, ok for another half dozen and a step down or back for most people, Sanchez not included. Yes, but... Eli didn't have to deal with an offense that was misfiring all over the place. He was perceived as the problem in the offense for most of the year because people weren't taking a lot of penalties and running into each other and dropping passes left, right and center. He had the best RB in the NFL lined up behind him that season and a good WR/TE group. People he had experience throwing too. Despite that he had an up and down season all year long and the Giants going 8-8 was just as attributable to Eli's play as the Jet's 8-8 this year was to Sanchez.
If it's reasonable, you HAVE to consider it. Unless health gets in the way of course (but then it would just be unreasonable anyway). And for anyone saying they don't want to win a Super Bowl if Peyton's the QB, please stop. You root for the team. It's as simple as that. We got Cromartie, Scott, Leonhard, and countless others from other teams. That's what free agency is. Stop being so picky. If you don't want to win a Super Bowl with whoever ends up on the team when it happens, then please be a fan of another team. Ridiculous.
Who cares if he leaves Indy, as long as he does not come to the Jets is OK with me. I know Sanchez was very inconsisten last season, but there's a reason why Schotty i no longer the OC.
lol - the players you named are in no way branded to another team the way that Peyton Manning is to the Colts. Also, anyone can turn the 2nd bolded argument around on you. By your logic you should be supporting Sanchez - since he is the starting QB of the Jets. So what's the problem? Your argument only works when...?
So because some QB's had a worse season than the year before it wasn't a passing paradise? The league as a whole threw for nearly 13000 more passing yards and nearly 100 more TD's in 2011 than in 2006. You're saying that can be attributed to half a dozen QB's? That's unlikely at best. So now that we're making a more reasonable comparison by looking at how they compared to there peers in the same year we're making excuses as to why Sanchez doesn't match up quite so well to Eli? Funny how that works.
You obviously didn't read my post before that. I said I obviously root for the guy on Sundays. But I can be critical. I'm not a sheep. I see a mediocre QB. I support him on Sundays, but I don't think he's very good. Of course I want to win a Super Bowl with him, but you know what? I'd prefer to just win a Super Bowl, regardless of who's at QB. Sure, you're entitled to having favorite players. After this year, mine's Kerley, the guy who got us big third down play after big third down play. If the Jets win a Super Bowl, I'd be happy whether they had him or not. Same goes for Sanchez. So yeah, my argument's not as flawed as you make it out to be.
And I forgot to answer the first part. Favre was just as branded by the Packers as Peyton is to the Colts, so by that logic, you didn't want the Jets to win the Super Bowl when we had Favre? Or you're just posting for the sake of posting? Which is it?
Some QB's? Half of the guys in the top 10 in 2010 had real off-seasons. That's not some QB's, that's a lot of the field. Throw in that Schaub got hurt and Peyton didn't play that's 7 new guys in the top 10. Roethlisberger also had a real down season. Didn't realize that until I looked more closely at 2010 but Roethlisberger went from 5th to 10th and had 21 turnovers as opposed to 9 in 2010. This wasn't a paradise year for QB's, it was a nightmare for lots of them. Not noting that Eli had Tiki Barber behind him in the backfield and a generally more solid performance out of his teammates would be an error.
I believe it will be up to Peyton if he wants to stay in Indy. Plus if he doesn't want to stick around they trade him to any team he wants.
I think this is where everyone is wrong. The Colts will trade them to "who" can take that contract... Its massive and your gonna need more then money to get peyton
Peyton Manning is not going to be traded. If he’s healthy, he’s either released before March 3rd, or he’s going to be a Colt in 2012. Manning is due a $28 million dollar bonus check on March 3rd. The soonest that Peyton can be traded is 10 days later on March 13th. That means that the Colts will be on the hook for all $28 mil of that bonus on the 2012 salary cap if he is traded or released after that date. This is on top of the remaining $16 mil of his original signing bonus that they’d be responsible for. So if the Colts trade Peyton Manning, he will count $44 million against their salary cap in 2012. There’s no way that happens.
ESPN played a bit from a radio interview with Eli today where they asked him about the possibility of his brother coming to play in NY and he was pretty enthusiastic about the idea. Didn't act like it was a far fetched notion at all. I was surprised.
Eli isn't going to say anything that might cost his brother millions of dollars. If the Colts choose to release Peyton before his 28 million bonus is due it will be a dead giveaway that they have come to the opinion that he's most likely finished. His market will decline dramatically at that point as teams comes to the realization that he is most likely done. He might get an offer from a team but it won't be for anywhere near the money he would have gotten if he is traded. Peyton Manning's best scenario at this point is that the Colts pick up the 28 million bonus and then whatever happens happens.
Interesting as a lot has been made of whether they would want to be in NY together. "Big Apple big enough for both Mannings? Eli would make room It remains pure speculation, but Giants quarterback Eli Manning sees solid upside to the distant prospect of his older brother, Peyton, winding up with the Jets next season. "It would be fun," Eli told WEPN-AM on Monday. "We could probably commute to work maybe, and, you know, come home, eat dinner together and have the kids be playing." He continued to dream: "Twin beds ... we could share notes on opponents and watch some film together." Eli's musings sound like a lost chapter from "The Royal Tenenbaums," touching on the rich harmony that a Manning & Manning era in the Big Apple would usher in." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...li-would-make-room?module=HP11_headline_stack
Yet somehow there were 13000 more passing yards and 100 more TD's thrown in 2011 than 2006. What a nightmare. What do QB's getting injured have to do with anything? Ben had a down year when he played a quarter of the season with a severe ankle sprain on his pushoff leg. Should we also note that Eli lost his starting left tackle for the season? It's not as easy to recall specific details of the Giants 2006 season as it is the Jets 2011 season. I could probably find more excuses for Eli too if I tried though.
