I would, too, if I were them. If you are not a Jet Fan, there is much to find amusing in making fun of the Jets. For me, it is not amusing at all, but for them, I can see it.
*yawn* Eli *yawn* QFT The Jets aren't looking for the spotlight. The Media is pointing the spotlight on them. Tebow was brought in to be a b/u QB and run WC formations. The media blew this out of proportion and instigated a QB controversy. Anyone with half a brain related to football realizes that Sanchez is definitely the better QB of the two while Tebow is the better football player. Its not hard to see that if you take a step back from the small short media blitx picture that has been created. I hated the move when it first happened because of the media blitz etc. Now after digesting it - I know it is a really good move for the club overall. We are getting Brad Smith to the 10th power. Dolphins have the most inept owner in NFL history next to the Browns since '99. I suggest refraining from picking on the Jets as that poking will end up causing you a firestorm of replies.
The Jets have painted the target on their back by allowing their load mouth coach, probably the biggest since Buddy Ryan, to make outlandish claims about how they are better than teams with clearly more talent and discipline. A coach that can't even correctly predict what's for dinner when there is pasta and pasta sauce laid out on the counter, yet he is screaming I know these sandwiches will be delicious. Stephen Ross might be an idiot billionaire when it comes to football, but Rex and Tannebaum are turning the Jets into a circus show by arguing with opposing players (see Brandon Jacobs & Channing Crowder), creating a suspect environment for a young "franchise" quarterback with confidence issues, giving big contracts to me first players that cripple the team and making those damn failed predictions that the team bought into.
Well Rex proclaimed his team to have a shot in the playoffs in 09, and they did better than anyone ever expected. In 2010 he did the same thing, and then he 100% owned the media before the Pats game by making the media talk about him and his personal war and not the 45-3 beatdown. Last year he missed badly on guaranteeing a Super Bowl. Oh and in 09/10 the only reason they played decent in the playoffs was because they believed in Rex. You heard Bart Scott and any other Jets player keep on saying "they didn't believe" "nobody gave us a chance" after the Foxboro game. He definitely motivated his team those first two years. If you want to talk about this year only, yeah Rex did a bad job. But overall he has done a good job as HC. There is nothing wrong with Channing thing. I believe all of the Crowder thing was in jest, but reading selective quotes wouldn't tell you that. Most of what you say at the end is more on the FO than Rex. The FO has done a good job, but unfortunately their misses are highlighted. This is a very important draft for them.
If you really believe that the Tebow was not in any way motivated by the attention it would bring to the team, I don't know what I can say to make us agree. It makes some sense as a football move, but it's really hard for me to look at that trade and say "yeah, they only had football motives in mind when they did that."
I have resigned myself to the thinking that maybe... it was largely a football based move. Rex loves the Wildcat (Jesuscat as I have seeen and enjoyed here) and Sparano openly used the Wildcat. So there is a possibility to believe that it is football based. But yes. The Jets don't live in a vaccuum so they new it would have a media impact which I guess they enjoy. For better or worse.
I would be perfectly happy if the Jets had the LEAST popular QB in the league as long as he was wearing a SB ring he got while playing for the Jets. I'd be fine with a piss boring personality QB as long as he's a winner.
I will say that the owner of the Jets loves the spotlight, probably much more than the FO & CS. Everyone on this board was upset to see Brad Smith go. He was a great player, team leader, etc blah blah blah; The Jets "swiss army knife". He cost too much to keep though. Now we bring in a guy who is Brad Smith+, for less money, and he's more a true QB than BSmith....and its a stupid move. *smh
You are either not paying attention or want to ignore the substance of the concerns. Most obnoxious is your implication that there is no possible basis for such concerns. Are you just a flat out homer, or are you prepared to consider the source and basis for such concerns? SMH here indeed. SMH or you want to understand? The concerns include: Brad Smith. He had his moments, but they were during the first two years the Jets were trying to develop a brand new Qb who had some real growing pains. They let him go in part because if you look around the league you don't see other teams for the most part depending on players like Smith to help move the chains. Why? Because they can do it with their base offense, meaning in part their Qb gets it done without gimmick plays. Sanchez did not get it done last year (yeah yeah yeah it was not all his fault). In other words the plan was to get it done with a third year Qb who could move the O without resort to gimmick plays. Sanchez's fourth year. The question now is not much different from year three, but hopefully it would have been without hte distractions of year three. Regarding how the O should be put together, year four, quite simply, is not and should not be seen the same as his first two. If it is, something is wrong. Either he makes or breaks it as a starting NFL Qb this year, with at least adequate focus and support, or the Jets should look elsewhere. THAT is what the Jets should be focusing on this coming year. Before that fourth year... This Off Season. Rather than getting the pieces in place for a Sanchez led O to make its case, or not, they first extend his guaranteed year to two, get a standard backup, then replace that standard backup with a guy who you can only make sense taking on if you want to run part of the O through someone other than Sanchez. What are the Jets trying to do? Are they trying to show unlike all the rest of the NFL that they can successfully run a hybrid O through two Qb's? Are they thinking they can go through Sanchez's fourth year and make their assessment whether he is a quality enough NFL Qb or not by taking plays away from him? Are they going back to the O they had in Sanchez's years one and two (remember - even then Brad Smith only ran a handful of plays each game - is that really waht they brought Tebow in to do?), and if so, is THAT the plan for the O for the foreseeable future? Who here really thinks the Jets are likely to have both Sanchez and Tebow on the roster for say the next three years let alone five or longer? The whole thing smacks of incoherence and some other object or goal than solid football. So you and others like you can pretend there is no basis for concern, and SMH your way right through the rest of this off season. But I for one think it is insulting to ignore that there are plenty of Jet fans who have real concerns, who think there is a basis for them, and who quite frankly think little of homeristic dismissals of their concerns. And for that, no SMH is intended.
Can you give our guys some time? specifically sanchez. Eli has played 8 years in this league and Sanchez has been better through 3 than Eli was. I don't know if he'll ever win a SB but he's been close and I'd like to give him more time. I like Eli, I hate his team, I root against him but he's a good guy.
I know the point of the topic has nothing to do with the dolphins, but I keep seeing stuff like this, and I want to know exactly how our owner is so inept. Is it because he has minority owners? I know he gets bashed for that, but who the hell cares? What does that have to do with football and how is that inept. Is he inept because he went looking for a new coach while he had one already on the sideline. Bad move, I can admit that, and I know he did. But damn, at least he's trying. He saw a coach that he thought could help this team, and he tried to get him. He had no idea there would be people tracking his plane when he took off to visit with Harbaugh. Again, mistake yes, inept, I dont think so. It's like the jets looking into Manning while they have Sanchez. Not exact same but you get my point. Now what is wrong with our owner going after Manning? Because apparantly people think that because we missed on Manning it's because we have a horrible ownership. I think Manning had a couple of choices and we weren't one of them. The media is what put us as the front runners. But no, it's because we have a horrible owner that nobody wants to play for. He must be inept because we didn't get Jeff Fisher. Based on all reports, he always wanted to go to St. Louis and have a franchise quarterback and complete control. I'm sorry but I have no problem with our owner saying no to a guy that has never been a GM before, taking complete control over our team. He also had nothing but nice things to say about our ownership. So again, how is our owner inept? How do we have a horrible front office? Because we missed out on some quarterbacks that most people would agree aren't worth it. We got ripped on by people for passing on Orton, but it turns out that was a good decision. We get ripped on because we didn't get Flynn, who by most accounts would have to fight for the starting spot, and it was a question whether he would even win it. It's funny, if the Colts or Steelers or Patriots were to get rid of Brandon Marshall, they would be praised as being a no nonsense, classy organization. But we get rid of him and we're idiots for it. It was a horrible decision. Our front office is in shambles. It's a joke. It seems like the one thing that really started all of this is Jeff Ireland asking Dez Bryant if his mom was a prostitute. That was bad, admittadly. But what doesn't get reported much is that Bryant told Ireland that his dad was a pimp, which prompted the question. Most of you probably don't know that, because it doesn't fit in with all of the bashing, but from what I've found online, thats how it went down. Doesn't make it ok, but it doesn't seem as bad when you hear that. Sorry, I know its a jets forum, but I've been seeing this crap so much that I had to have a little rant, and yea I know nobody on here is going to care, but I had to straiten things out a little. I'm not thrilled with the organization right now, but they get much much more shit than they deserve.
It just shows you how the NY media(and most media) is fueled by negativity. The Giants win the superbowl and all they can talk about is Tim Tebow and Mark Sanchez QB controversy when the season hasn't even started yet. The media's a complete joke.
as a football move it's a great move. it gives us a valiable playmaker and a backup QB, the only issue w/ the deal is creating more controversy w/ the QBs and LR issues that come along w/ a QB controversy. I don't expect one but if sanchez doesn't play well we'll see one. That's the only negative to this.
