http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...tim-tebow-holding-ball-long-article-1.1141680 Pretty good article. He needs to improve more, but I can already tell a difference.
Hasselbeck based that on the Cincinnati game, but I thought even the Giants game looked like an improvement. Especially that first drive, he was crisp.
Tebow is on his third offense, third coaching staff and third group of receivers in 3 years. I think he needs improvement also but just learning and dealing with team changes has got to be difficult in itself. He should be an offensive encyclopedia by his 5th year.
The jets O-line is like a force of nature...a very negative one. Tebow frozen in place for a split second is proof that they even affect the space time continuum with their horrible play.
Put Tebow at home and where he belongs, the Shotgun. It will make him comfortable and give him that extra time he needs. Regular QB's need the I-formation because they need a running back, Tebow don't need no stinking running back...
Improvement against 2s and 3s? That doesn't say much at all. It was the same Tebow as last year looking at those preseason games.
That's all there is to go on -- improvement in his drops and timing is improvement. It's flawed reasoning to suggest you can draw a negative conclusion on his improvement from a preseason game, but not a positive one. So I just pointed out that the expert in the article was basing it on a preseason game, but that the Giants game looked better.
I was never asked about the positives. Tebow looked better his 2nd game over his first one no doubt. He's improving, but it's not to the point where he can become a play-maker at the QB position. Footwork still needs work, I can agree that even though he's not throwing the football as much, It looks better, much better than his rookie year so the improvement is there. He's got a long way to go though. More than likely he'll be a late bloomer if he wants to continue to play QB. Rich Gannon wasn't relevant till the last 6 or so seasons he played in. If anything I would need to see his play against the ones to justify anything about Tebow. As we speak, the Jets are ruining the guy's development as a QB anyway.
So Tebow is holding it too long but no mention of Sanchez who has taken a zillion sacks because he has no clue when to get rid of it?
The Jets have done more for Tebow's development as a traditional pocket passer than was done at Denver & UF combined. Tim will have to keep progressing at it by training hard during the offseason (like he did this past one) and it's ultimately up to him how much of all the info he retains but I don't think they've done a bad job. At all. He'll never be a traditional QB and I don't think he's ever wanted that. But he knows there's fundamental things he has to get better at to be the kind of QB he wants to be. Cavanaugh >>> Gase by miles.
Agreed. Tebow's getting exactly what he needs. The opportunity to develop his skills while contributing to the team.
I agree with this. Things feel like they are where they should have been all along. Tebow is getting good, intensive work behind and established starter, and will also be coming in games to use his special talents to help his team win. That's the perfect track.
That would be the real test -- playing against, and with, the ones. But for things like improvement in his footwork, drops, timing and quickness in getting rid of the ball, we can see that against the 2's. I mean, it's not a subtle thing -- at times he has dropped back and looked like he can't decide where to go with the ball. The other night against the Giants, he ripped it out of there quickly on every drop in that first drive.
You don't see that consistency against the twos. On some plays absolutely, you can see that against 2s and 3s, but Tebow left a lot of big plays on that field after Saturday's game. One mainly being Stephen Hill's play. You definitely see some improvement, but nothing worth noting or meriting any type of talk for. He would at this stage get killed by the 1s. He's below average against 2s even though everyone is learning a new offense. All facets of his game have improved, but he's got a long ways to go. I would say that he's at least 2 years away from being an average QB. The training he did after last season (in addition to what he's getting now) is the real reason why he's improved some of his mechanics, but like I mentioned before it's nothing worth mentioning. I still think McDaniels did a few things to help Tebow early in his career.
Child please. He missed a TD pass and it was bad. But more often than not in that situation he gets the TD in there. You can't judge his big play ability off of one missed throw. Tebow has had many big plays in the NFL, even in his limited time starting. And yes, the were against the 1's.
Plus, you have to consider that in practice, they blow the whistle on what they "think" might be a sack, since there is no contact. I saw many times last year defenders not being able to bring down Tebow in the pocket even though the same effort would have taken down most QB's...We saw the same thing against Cincinnati in the first Preseason game where Tebow escaped (those were plays that probably would have been ruled a "sack" in practice). Also remember that play against the Giants where Will Hill got a free unblocked hit on Tebow and still had a tough time bringing him down...Tebow's not very easy to force to the ground.
That was funny. I'm not so sure Tebow would have gone down at all, but another defender came flying in for his head and he had to go ahead and drop down. Look closely -- he doesn't go down until he does the tuck himself.
It was pretty funny actually... It reminded me of when I was a teenager playing football in the backyard with my little brother who was 5 years younger than me... He would just bounce off when he would try to hit me. That's almost exactly what happened on that play...Tebow reminds me a lot of Roethlisberger in that aspect.
