Steve Johnson vs Revis Island

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Box scores are mainly irrelevant when you take this situation into account. Johnson could be 7 catches and 25 yards while the Jets decimate the Bills and Revis gives up a 70 yd reception that results in a garbage time field goal. While being 20 points down.

    Of course, some dickweed Bills fan would consider that a victory for Johnson, even though it meant nothing.
     
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  2. Burnz

    Burnz Well-Known Member

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    Yup this is true but I do believe that there is a presence of safeties when he is playing deep threats(under 25% of the time maybe)but I could be wrong. Revis is not a speed demon he just covers like a blanket only speed can kill revis but that is still a self inflicted wound
     
  3. Bill Belidouche

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    Revis is just like Batman - with prep time and motivation there's no way you can beat him.

    I predict that Johnson gets owned in Megatron/Ochocinco style.
     
  4. milo

    milo Well-Known Member

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    And to further this point, Revis rarely has had safety help because up until now, Revis has rarely had safeties.

    Assuming Landry and Bell don't both get carted off the field in the second quarter, I think there will be help where it's needed on Johnson.

    S.J. may claim to have Revis' number, but we have Fitzy's, so with the addition of our beasts across the middle I think the days of Johnson's one claim to fame as Revis' nemesis are done for.
     
  5. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Revis is very fast for a guy with his muscle mass and length of body, but he hedges his bets against speed receivers by playing into the receiver's route and disrupting their arm-swings and straight-line leg movement. He's a master at it, actually. It's only when a guy gets a hard run without a bump and runs into a different zone, like that retarded Ginn TD where Carrie Rhodes tried to throw Revis under the bus in 2009, that he ends up looking like he's 'burnt'.
     
  6. SecondHandJets

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    You're not a true Jet fan.
     
  7. WhysoSerious?

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    Thats fair enough. The reality is, even Stevie doesn't "have Revis's number", he has had more success against Revis than anyone not named Marshall or Ginn. Dissect the box scores all you want but if it was easy to complete 5 yard slants for Tds and 50 yard bombs in so called "garbage time" against Revis, wouldn't every receiver be doing it? But they're not. So therefore, I think Stevie deserves some credit for making plays against Revis. Obviously, I would be happy with 0 catches for Johnson if it meant a Bills win though. I think Jets fans would say the same about Revis getting burned as long as the Jets win. I think it should be a hard fought game. Division games always are.
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    He absolutely does, and I've never tried to take that credit away from Stevie. He found ways to beat the best, maybe not all the time, but enough times that he earned the hell out of some respect from me.

    And you're right, people will skew the stats where they may, but the end result for the team is basically the end result, no matter how a player-on-player matchup influences it. It's always going to be a team game, no matter the perceived drama.

    Edit: and you know what else? He may have been one of the few to get the best of 24, but SJ was the first to come out and give him props in the top 100. Much respect for that. None of the 'elite receivers' that Revis had beasted on ever gave that. Not A Johnson, C Johnson, Moss, Marshall.... they can suck a dick.
     
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    I can agree with this, although I wouldn't put Ginn in that category. The only 2 receivers I've seen give Revis trouble (and I use trouble in a very loose sense here), is Marshall and SJ. I still defend the Ginn play was poor safety help, since it still looks to me that Revis kind of let him go expecting deep coverage.
     
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    Love how the bills copied the jets all white uni's..And Laron will be there for those cheap quick slants that they do and pound stevie.
     
  11. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    Revis. a successful win again Revis includes having a TD on him (man to man) and at least 70 yds.
     
  12. 101GangGreen101

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    I would prob add Vincent Jackson too. Man back in 2009 those two went at it for 60 minutes. That was an intense battle.
     
  13. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    It was a great matchup but Revis dominated him statistically. Revis vs. Andre Johnson was an awesome match up of 09 too.
     
  14. Bills_AFC_East

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    The stats should have been much greater, Stevie dropped that 40 yard pass over the middle that might have won the game last year. He had another long pass that he just missed getting his feet down on, Stevie was beating Revis left and right, should have had 150+ yards.

    The Jets know, the film doesnt lie. Thats why Bart Scott made the excuse they were doubling everyone else.
     
  15. nyjunc

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    That's what Stevie does, he's the opposite of Holmes. Where Stevie will put up good fantasy #s he doesn't show up when it matters most where Holmes isn't a great stat guy but makes big plays to win games.
     
  16. Bills_AFC_East

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    I have to agree. Stevie has dropped passes late in games, Holmes is clutch.

    I would say the same about Mark Sanchez also, he is better in clutch moments, at least from what I have seen.
     
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    yes, if we can only get those guys to perform qtrs 1 through 3 we'll be ok:)
     
  18. WhysoSerious?

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    Yeah Stevie really needs to stop dropping key passes. It's frustrating.
     
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    Jackson didn't do anything against revis.
     
  20. 101GangGreen101

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    Statistically no, against Revis he didn't do much (despite 7 catches for 111 yards). There were some plays left out there, I guess you could blame Rivers for being awful that game as well (thanks to the #1 defense).
     

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