The Jets are a team with plenty of talent to compete. The Jets are undisciplined slobs. And they take after their coach. This is not a personnel problem. It is a coaching problem. It seems like a personnel problem but it isn't. It makes the GM look bad. Our GM is not the best, but he is certainly not as bad as what is being show on the field. 1. Missed tackles is a discipline problem. It has been happening all year. Men at this level know how to tackle. They have been tackling for 20 years since they started in pop warner. If we had a coach that would put them through some grueling tackling drills..they would tackle. The only reason...let me repeat the ONLY reason guy at this level don't tackle is because they are allowed not to tackle because they are not being held accountable. 2. Dropped balls is a discipline problem. These receivers have been catching balls for 20 years. They know how to do it. If they had a coach that made them catch balls form the machine until their hands bled when they dropped balls. They would not drop balls like they are. 3. Players talking shit and giving first down signals when they are getting blown out, or CBs waving their fingers after they got burned and the receiver drops or the QB over throws (Wilson) is a discipline problem 4. Poor QB decisions and fumbles when carrying the ball like a loaf of bread is a discipline problem. 5. Fumbling is a discipline problem. If you got benched and were forced to run the duration of practice with the ball in your hand you would fix this problem. 6. Turn overs from bad routes, bad throws, ill advised throws are discipline problems. 7. Your coach talking shit and running his mouth saying stupid shit to the media is a discipline problem. Rex's honeymoon is over. The players like him but they don't fear or respect him. He does not hold the guys accountable. His statement after the game that he was giving the guys 2 days off is case in point. Any coach with any amount of sack would have them in Monday and would dog the hell out them for the slop they displayed this Sunday. I like Rex, hes a good guy, I'd drink a beer and bullshit with him any day. But as a long term coach, I think this is the beginning of the end for him.
All of these other successful teams seem to be able to plug-and-play. We have never been able to do that and thats what separates us. Patriots have done this year after year. Lose a guy to FA or injury, new guy steps in and its like the original was never gone(Even a HOFer like Brady to a degree when Cassell stepped in). We're always left saying Where the hell did this guy come from. Giants do it(Pass rushers seem to grow on trees for them), Steelers do it)LBs and DEs especially), Chargers do it, Indy used to do it, Green Bay etc. Tonight the Giants have their entire secondary injured and not 100% and they are still in the game with one of the better teams in football. I believe the difference is coaching/talent evaluation. Discipline and training makes up for a lack of talent. You think Tom Coughlin strokes his players like rex, BB, Cowher/Tomlin coddle people? Hell no, they demand the best and do all the teaching in their power to get the player to their maximum so they can contribute. We do not do that. We accept the status quo. Hard knocks really solidified this point, yea players love playing for rex, but only a certain kind of player, spoiled baby players. Real atheletes will take the diffcult path and deal with a BB/Cowher because they relish the challenge and the benefits it brings. Our players are pussies who want to be stroked and have the easy path and really don't seem to care about winning. The difference between 3rd stringers/drafted players that replace other parts is negligible througout the league. Other teams scrubs cant be much better than our scrubs(if they were, they'd be starting elsewhere)
I Agree Football relies on coaches and leadership more than any other sport. That's why a guy like Parcells can turn a 4 win team into a playoff team in no-time. Winning it all however, does take elite talent.... (I'll admit that) That being said, my BIGGEST FEAR is ........... more injuries this year. Why? Because injuries will give Tannenstein and Rex a built in BS excuse. Injuries didn't kill the 2012 season. Poor coaching, poor player selection, poor player development, poor roster management, poor team discipline, poor leadership, killed the season and team. And I hope and pray the fat weasels Tannenstein and choppers Rex are gone. In all likelihood though, they will survive like the cockroaches they are.
It is kinda hard to know how much talent you have until you have a disciplined team that executes. Kotite's 96 jets were not much different than Parcells 97 Jets. Parcells 97 Jets were disciplined and executed. Rex's Jets are not disciplined and therefore don't execute.
I think it is time to start benching people, David Harris, Mark Sanchez, etc. Rex has to make a statement saying IDK if you are making x amount of dollars, if you under perform, you will ride the pine!
The offense suffers from players not being fundamentally good enough to be NFL starters. I agree with some of the OP's points, but discipline is bound to fall out of line on a team that is suffering from not being good enough. Look at the Sanchez fumble. Height of stupidity. Awful discipline. Does he make that decision if he is confident that if he just takes the 3 points, his playmakers will get the job done next possession? Probably not.
You said it brother. Rex is too much of a pussy to hold their feet to the fire. This is a shame because he is pretty strong in other ways but this will be his fatal flaw. I began to worry about this with Rex when I heard he was crying in his speeches to the team to get them motivated. The enthusiasm and gags only get you so far. At the end of day they have to respect and fear you as much as they like you.
I think that discipline has nothing to do with talent. You can have perfect discipline and crap talent and you can have great talent and no discipline. You are as disciplined as coach requires you to be and if you are not you get bounced. You will never know how talented a team is until it is fully disciplined. If you have two fully disciplined teams the one with better talent wins. If you have a talented undisciplined team you can easily be beat by lesser talented teams with discipline.
It's another sad chapter in the tragic story of the NY Jets. Just fucking brutal. And Rex is mad at the defense? What fucking game was he watching? It's all good...take two days off to think about things. I'm not even going to Tivo this shit anymore. It's just not worth the effort to find out what channel DirecTV is gonna place it. Fox cut out of the debacle halfway through the 4th. They didn't even bother saying goodbye...like a mob hit man sticking an ice pick in the back of your head. They did the fans a favor.
Take it from a Dolphins fan. Tony Sparano's dink and dumps will get players injured and will cause you to pull your hair out. The guy is the worst Offensive Cordinator I've ever seen. We had to deal with the wash in miami for 4 years so I feel your pain guys. And Rex is just Rex all mouth no bite. New nick name TyrateasorelessRex
This thread about sums it up, personally I think we need a new HC, not that I don't like Ryan, but he is too much of "players" coach. We need a coach who is more willing to lay down the law, the type of person that the players talk about being such a "hard ass" behind his back, but still respect him. Quite frankly, I would rather have a coach like Coughlin.
Agree with this 100%. The Jets continue to make the same boneheaded plays they did three years ago under Rex. They had a stronger unit then and were able to overcome mistakes with late game drives. But, now the same lackluster, pathetic and unprofessional approach has sapped the team of any spirit or drive. You cannot be everyone's pal. You have to get in the trenches and make them earn your respect. Two days off after that inept display today is a complete joke.
Great post! Every time I watch the Jets play this year, I have been saying this. They simply over pursue, and get fucked by shifty RB's. They would rather make the big hit to get a SportsCenter Top 10 play than making a competent tackle.
Wasn't it Henning and Daboll calling the plays? I thought in the Buffalo and Miami games Sparano called nice games. Pit and SF just beat us the fuck down physically.
