for the love of god. Every person on this board was in love with Tannenbaum after the offseason, and directly after the draft. Up until week 12, he was expected to be the executive of the year! now you guys want to fire him because the team collapsed? which BTW he has no control over!
First off I disagree. My take is this: Did the guy put enough talent on the field as the Jets GM to allow the team to make a playoff run; thats the only relevent question here. For my money the answer is YES he did. He gave Mangini plenty of talent. Just look at what Parcells did with the Jets in 97 for an example of what good coaching can mean to a team. The Jets were 1 and 15 in 96 and the Tuna took essentially the same roster and went 9 and 7.
agreed. what un-did the jets was the defense. so, mangini and sutton deserve to go. the pats exposed the jets defense and denver, sf, and seatlle went to work using the same game plan. in-game adjustments proved to be out of mangini's and sutton's area of expertise.
when you are playing from behind, you have to throw the ball. during the winning streak, they played from a lead, the defense was able to shutdown the other team, and they could run more.
BS...Brett played like shit for 5 weeks. He wasn't just playing poorly, he was playing very bad. Some of his throws were inexcusable. The INT returned for a TD on Sunday was one of the worst plays I've ever seen. He threw it right to the DL. It had nothing to do with arm strength, or being injured. He just made a horrible decision, which became all to common. Yes, the defense failed down the stretch, but I blame that more on our "prevent-all-day-long" scheme.
I don't think it would be wise for Woody to fire anyone around him that knows the business right now. I'm not sure he knows the game well enough to make a wise decision on the next head coach.
Evry1 shud b helld acountable!!! I did kind of lose some respect for Tannenbaum after the firing. It just doesn't seem like he was into the choice. I'm also not a fan of him getting all the credit as far as building this team. That one is just unbelievable, but 90% of the shit I see written about this team is unbelievable.
They might have ended up being disasters, but almost everyone on this board wanted Gholston and the majority also wanted Favre so it's had to fault him on either.
Like I've been saying Woody is the real problem. He's an owner that doesn't know shit about football but yet he's making decisions. Once Woody decide to just write the checks and let the football guys handle the fb decisions then this team will be alright.
He needs some football guys before that's going to be true though. The personnel department can't consistently find talent. That's obvious at this point. Anything less than consistently finding talent is going to leave the Jets right where they were in 2005, 2007, 2011 and now 2012: mediocre and needing a free agent talent infusion to make up for the mediocre drafting that has put them in that position. The GM is a money guy. For Woody that has value but for the fans not so much. When Woody has put up a lot of cash the money guy has put it to use in ways that were penny wise and pound foolish. The head coach is a defensive coordinator who cannot let go of the reins on that side of the ball because that's where the value he has always provided comes from. Rex cannot envision himself as a successful head coach, managing the coaching staff and figuring out who is good enough to be on the field and who is not, because he is so wrapped up in the defense. He's never going to be a great head coach until he starts to do that. No head coach can afford to tie himself down on the side of the ball that holds games instead of winning them. There's room for a coach to be calling plays and managing a unit, but that unit is the offense, because the offense sets the ceiling for a franchise while the defense sets the floor. If Rex stays next year, and that's a good bet at this point, he needs to be made to go find an independent DC to run the defense. Pettine is not a bad coach but he enables Rex to micro-manage that side of the ball and in the process Rex loses the global view that he needs to have to win a lot. You know what? Next year Rex should stick his nose heavily in on the offensive side of the ball. He wants to Ground and Pound? Then let him figure out how to run that offense and win in a league where the best teams only start running like that when they have a decent lead. The defense should be run by a completely independent coordinator who answers to Rex for results but not methods. That'd solve the problem of always wanting the high picks on that side of the ball. Let Rex worry about how the offense is doing for a change.
To be fair Tanny did a good job building the team when he wasnt being tied down by the owner to try and save money. Tanny is getting the blame because we the fans look at the general manager as THE decision maker regarding personel. But look closer and you see the real problem isn't Tanny but Woody.
QFT Cant believe I am quoting a post from 2008. People were blaming Tanny for our 2008 collapse! :rofl: :rofl:
