Let's say KC offers the 1st overall

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Satire?, Mar 13, 2013.

  1. Satire?

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    and a mid-draft pick for Revis and the Jets 9th overall?

    Would you hit it?
     
  2. Catfish Billy

    Catfish Billy Well-Known Member

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    Nah. I want extra picks. Number 1 means nothing in this draft.
     
  3. Satire?

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    my bad, didn't think about that much. added the "mid-draft pick" to the equation
     
  4. Burnz

    Burnz Well-Known Member

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    Can we then trade that pick back for extras? lol
     
  5. Satire?

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    they'd probably be cool with that if they got Revis.
     
  6. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    The #1 pick in this draft has negative value (yes, I said it). The player who goes #1 overall will get paid like the top player in the draft, but will have the performance value of a typical #1 overall player in a draft.

    I wouldn't trade the #9 straight up for the #1 (and I bet there's a lot of GMs that feel the same way).
     
  7. TNJet

    TNJet Well-Known Member

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    Nope I want volume and a pick in 2014.
     
  8. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    That's ridiculous under the new rookie wage scale.

    I admit, this is a strange draft where there's no clear-cut top pick, so the extra $2M-$2.5M it would cost per year might make the move less appealing to some teams. But there are always teams that covet a certain player in the draft. Even if you take less on the draft value chart than you normally would, it still means the 1 is more valuable than the 9.
     
  9. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    You're going to give someone $22 million (fully guaranteed) at #1 that you like slightly better than the guy you can get at #9 for $12 million ($7 mil guaranteed)? I'm not.
     
  10. AbdulSalam

    AbdulSalam New Member

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    No. Revis is one of the best defensive players in the NFL. NYJ should not accept any offer that doesn't correspond to his value. Better to keep him and re-sign.
     
  11. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Yep, there's no franchise player in this draft. A few franchise players will likely emerge from it but you can't figure out who they are ahead of time.

    The only thing picking up high gets you this year is better flexibility in terms of making a decision. For that you pay a real price in contract terms and in public perception.

    The two players in the draft that you can make an argument for as #1 based on their displayed skills are Jarvis Jones and Star Lotulelei and both of them come with health concerns that dwarf that overall status.
     
  12. usc1978

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    There aren't.
     
  13. 4jetfans

    4jetfans Well-Known Member

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    Please dont start playing the games that Tanny did to us, Stick with the plan, We dont need a sexy pic. WE NEED young players and a lot of them. Just use this draft to its fullest and let the chips fall where they may. Long over do for a youth movement.
     
  14. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    While multiple picks would be great, the Jets need to take the best offer available to them, if that's just the #1 pick, then so be it.
     
  15. JetsUK

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    if somehow we got that pick I would be happy enough so long as they went with the top pass rusher or OT prospect and not some borderline QB
     
  16. Red Menace

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    Lets not forget he was injured last year, if the jets were going after someone else's top player who was injured, this board would be going nuts on how we should not give anything of value for an injured player.

    He is a great defensive player who's star has lost some brightness because of his holdout and his injury.

    Personally I think he will injure his knee again, lets move him and move on.
     
  17. TurkJetFan

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    theres always a franchise player in a draft....it's just not as clear who that guy is this year (which in reality is almost never a given)...if we hypothetically trade for the #1 I'm taking that pick and trading back.
     
  18. Tony

    Tony Bipedal, Reformed

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    Not only no, but I don't even want the #9 pick. I'm a believer of almost always getting out of the top 12. You can always get a quality player after the 12th pick, and it doesn't cost near as much. Plus you gain extra picks.
     
  19. TurkJetFan

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    I suppose, but the rookie wage scale has kind of made the whole top 12 rookie $$ a moot point.
     
  20. Br4d

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    My point is that usually by a month before the draft everybody knows who the #1 pick in that draft is. At the most you have a group of 2 or 3 who might go on that pick and those guys will all go in the top 3.

    In this draft nobody has a clue who the #1 pick is. Most mock drafts are now predicting either Luke Joeckel or Eric Fisher as the #1 pick. They both play the same position and yet neither of them is clearly perceived as more valuable than the other. Neither of them is seen as an all-time great prospect at LT either. There's no Orlando Pace in this field full of good LT's who stands out head and shoulders above the current draft class, let alone the NFL crowd.

    Many mocks have either of the two guys above going as low as the 5 pick.

    So we have no great player sitting on the #1 pick at this point to be the plum pick of the draft. The guy just doesn't exist this year.

    Then you move on to to the next factor that defines NFL drafts and you look at the QB class and nobody is excited about the guys who are there.

    Geno Smith is the best prospect at the moment but some mocks have him going in the 20's at this point. Some have him as early as the 3 pick but most seem to peg him in the 7 to mid-teens ranges. No other QB has a clear 1st round grade at this point.

    Matt Barkley is probably going to go at the top of the 2nd round, joining Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick, Kevin Kolb and Drew Brees as guys who looked good in college but had enough questions coming into the NFL that nobody would blow a 1st round pick on them.

    Nobody would be shocked if another QB went over both of those guys from the middle of the 1st round on because the talent at QB just doesn't blow anybody away this year.

    The leading pass rushers, the other high value position in the NFL draft, all have injury, performance or potential questions going into the draft. Nobody knows who the first pass rusher to be taken will be.

    DT's are always a solid choice in the 1st round but nobody knows who the best DT is.

    It's a draft without obvious franchise players. A few guys may become franchise players but I don't think anybody would say with certainty who they are. There's nobody in the draft who is foolproof.
     

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