OK,yes, I'm a little bored.... Anyway, every thread on TGG that's about the 2013 draft comes down to 'he sucks', 'no way', 'not ready', 'too slow', '2013 has no talent', on and on. Sooo....here's the thought: opt out. Just opt out. Trade our entire 2013 draft to some lowly team (Chiefs?) that's in true rebuilding mode and desperate for new talent NOW, even more desperate than us. They'll have double pics in EVERY round, even our 9th overall. More than enough to round out ANY roster and compete this coming season. What do we get? We get their entire 2014 draft, the top half of their 2015, and their #1 in 2016. Value wise, it comes out about right. Benefit: 2014 is our turn to have double pics in EVERY round (ours plus theirs), plus 2015 we have an extra 1,2,3, and then in 2016 we have two #1's. Damn! If that don't stock the Jets for the next 10 years nothing will. Benefit: We don't have to try and use a 9th overall pick this year on another 'project player' including a QB in a very weak draft class. Benefit: IF we do trade Revis for a 2013 #1, we can trade this for a 2,3,5 to give us at least 3 decent pics this year. Or something close. Benefit: We can use some of our $6M rookie cap money to bring in a few more B- to B+ hold the fort free agents to fill as many holes as possible. Benefit: If Rex DOES get chopped, we could get any HC on the planet with the huge windfall of draft pics coming our way. Before you say this is crazy ass shit and would never happen in the NFL, remember Ditka of the Saints traded his ENTIRE 1999 draft AND his 2000 1st and 3rd to the Redskins for ONE PLAYER. One fn player. Lets see if Idzik has the balls to opt out of the worst draft class in recent memory and set us up for the next 10 years! :beer:
There's the roster problem. There's the selling tickets in 2013 problem. There's the 15 man practice squad of whom about 7 or 8 are going to be on the active roster problem. That's a lot of problems. Trading a pick downwards to pick up 2014 picks is not a bad idea. Trade the 9 for the 20 and a 1st in 2014? Not a bad idea. Trade the 39 for the 60 and a 2nd in 2014? Probably not a terrible idea. You can't trade away from your young players in a rebuilding year. That just doesn't work. You're not rebuilding then, you're having a year-long funeral for the team that was and is no more.
All true, but if Idzik and Rex could get us through 2013 in about the same shape as Rex got us through 2012, you would not be pissed with double pics in every round in 2014, plus the extra 1 2 3 in 2015 and extra 1 in 2016. Of course 2013 would suck, but it's probably gonna suck anyway even with 7 new players from a weak draft. So screw the 7 new 'practice squad' guys and get ready for 2014 and beyond!!!!
If the Jets draft no young players this year the rebuilding process begins in 2014. I'm fine with rebuilding because the old structure was rotting out anyway. I'm not ok with farting around for a year in the process. Nothing good would come out of playing the roster the Jets have right now with a bunch of street free agents thrown in to flesh it out. Even the fantasy that if we strip out the roster we might get the 1 pick in 2014 neglects to take into account that all the great prospects in 2014 are under-classmen. 3-13 in 1995 got the Jets a WR in 1996. 1-15 the year after got them a bunch of trades down because the best player in the country decided not to come out for them.
I'm not talking about opting out of the 2013 draft so we go 1-15 and get the top pic in 2014. I'm only suggesting opting out of 7 so-so rookies this year so we can double up in 2014 and beyond. If some other team opted out of 2013 and avoided a bunch of so-so players, and then had double pics for the next 3 years you'd be like "Why didn't we do that???"
This draft has no less talent in it than any of the drafts in recent years. The fact that there is no clear franchise QB in it doesn't mean there's no talent in it. The reason Jets fans see this draft as iffy is because we're looking for a QB and a pass rusher and outside of a couple of people those two needs are not clearly represented in the top 10. Looked at from the standpoint of BPA this draft is loaded from about our pick out to pick 50. That's why trading down would be a good option. And I would never suggest trading out of one draft to go for the next. Trading surplus picks to get picks next year would be fine but looking at the Jets roster right now I have a hard time seeing any of this year's picks as surplus.
If Jerry Jones holds onto those Cowboys for his entire lifetime, I can see him pulling off those crazy Al Davis moves in his really late years. But I do agree with you that nobody today is gonna agree to such a proposal.
If this draft is so talentless why would any team give up their next years draft?? This not only will never happen but in principle it makes no sense.
Where did this talk of no talent in this draft come from? This draft may not have the elite top of the draft talent like some but it's is very deep. Every draft has elite players come out of it. The rest is just too unrealistic to even comment on.
This is simply inane. No team would ever think of doing this. If the Jets did it, they would no doubt be the complete laughing stock of any sport. Can't you think of something more doable than an idea that will never happen? And , btw, what makes you think this draft is a complete waste? Has there ever been a draft that fits that description? Didn't think so.
also, like previously mentioned, this draft is stacked no clear cut franchise qb, but potential impact players are a plenty, theres tight ends, safeties, wide receivers, running backs and a couple pass rushers. and just cause there arent any andrew lucks or anything in this years draft, doesnt mean that there arent guys you can pick up in the later rounds that could become solid starters. you are literally suggesting taking a year off as a team.
Bump this in 2014 when we could have had double pics in every round and look back at what we got in 2013. And to say 'no team would be this dumb to swap drafts and then add a 1 2 3 the next year and add a 1 the year after that', well the 'Skins just gave up WAY more for RG3, and Ditka gave up his ENTIRE draft plus his 1 & 3 the next year for Ricky Williams, so yes, there are teams dumb enough to do it. The Jets would be giving up NOTHING and end up with a double draft in 2014 plus an extra 1 2 3 in 2015 and an extra 1 in 2016. Enough pics to get the top QB, the top pass rusher, the top running back, the top safety or two, and 2 or 3 top lineman. All for opting out of this years draft. Yup...really dumb.
It's also really dumb. Any GM who suggested that his team was so bad that there was no point in adding talent to it in the current year would be out of a job so fast it would make his head spin. This isn't Madden. You can't get a season done in 15 minutes with quickplay or whatever. All the fans have to live through that season. All the players have to play through it. The owner has to sell tickets through it. Watching the Jets next year would be a miserable experience if they skipped the draft for any reason whatsoever, let alone to trade with a probable playoff team for their future picks. Give a good team 14 picks in a year and they probably have a 24+ pick for the next 3 years or so. BTW, not that I think the JJ trade chart is necessarily that accurate but it suggests that the 9 pick is worth more than a 1 in 2014, a 1 in 2015 and a 1 in 2016. (1350 vs 500 + 250 + 125) That's assuming that the team you trade with has the 16 each year. It gets worse if they're a playoff team. There is a reason that very few NFL franchises are willing to trade a current 1st round pick for next year's pick, let alone a pick 2 or 3 years down the road. Now it happens occasionally that an NFL team is willing to trade a late 1st round pick for a future 1st and it happens occasionally that an NFL team is willing to trade a better 1st round pick for a 1st this year and something good next year. That's occasionally, not often. I can't think of the last time a team traded a 1st round pick this year for a 1st round pick the following year without getting another 1st round pick this year. It probably has happened at some point but I can't recall it.
Opting out this year's entire draft to double up on the next year's draft? That's equivalent to trading this year's 1st with next year's 7th and some other chump change. Why would anyone commit this level of stupidity?
